1 Corinthians 13: 12 Commentary

Angel (Post #8): I have already posted a commentary for Eph. 4:11.

By Roland G (wrote 1651 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/4/2012 15:29 pm

ROLAND G.:

Scriptures do not point to a cessation of prophets. For example lets review I Corinthians 12:28 and Ephesians 4:11-12.

1 CORINTHIANS 12:28…..
28. And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

ALSO

EPHESIANS 4:11-12…..
11. And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12. For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

In FACT; they state only that the partial Word each Old Testament prophet uttered was fully expressed in Christ, the Logos (Word), when He appeared in flesh. The New Testament abounds with prophets after Christ, even aside from the prophetic ministries obviously manifest in the Apostles such as Peter, Paul, John, AND so many more.

LIKE I SAID; GOD NEVER CHANGES OR DEVIATES FROM HIS HOLY WORD WITHIN HIS HOLY BIBLE.

By 2live4GOD (wrote 400 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/4/2012 03:11 am

Tiuche (Post #6): All gifts are not gone just a few.

1. Tongues: No one speaks a foreign language they do not know.

2. Knowledge: No one knows God’s Word without learning or studying it.

3. Prophesy: No one gets new prophesies from God. All prophesies God wants
us to know are in the Holy Bible.

By Roland G (wrote 1651 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/4/2012 00:02 am

Roland G. is a preterist? This is PROBABLY the reason he believes all gifts are gone!
Preterism is defined as:

Preterism is a Christian eschatological view that interprets prophecies of the Bible, especially Daniel and Revelation, as events which have already happened in the first century A.D. Preterism holds that Ancient Israel finds its continuation or fulfillment in the Christian church at the destruction of Jerusalem in AD 70. The term preterism comes from the Latin praeter, which is listed in Webster’s 1913 dictionary as a prefix denoting that something is “past” or “beyond,” signifying that either all or a majority of Bible prophecy was fulfilled by AD 70. Adherents of preterism are commonly known as preterists. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preterism ).

By TIUCHE (wrote 3262 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/3/2012 11:52 am

ROLAND G.:

You are contradicting SO MANY HOLY SCRIPTURES….. THAT ARE DIRECTLY FROM GOD….. That states the gifts ARE STILL IN EFFECT….. yesterday, today, and forever. Therefore you keep on TAKING AWAY from GOD’S HOLY WORD.

By 2live4GOD (wrote 400 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/2/2012 17:09 pm

Roland G. in post#3 said : In v. 11 Paul compared the pre-canon period to the post-canon period with an illustration. Paul said when he was a child (a passing reference to the pre-canon period) he spoke, understood and thought as a child. But, when he became a man (a passing reference to the post-canon period in transition) he put away (abolished by replacement) childish, not yet mature, stuff.

Comment: I just wonder if St. Paul was alive today, whether he would agree with these thoughts of Roland. I am wondering too if Paul in his time would even know what the highly technical term that Roland use; such as the pre-canon period and post canon period? What Roland posted is not at all what Paul was talking about!

By TIUCHE (wrote 3262 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/2/2012 16:41 pm

In v. 11 Paul compared the pre-canon period to the post-canon period with an illustration. Paul said when he was a child (a passing reference to the pre-canon period) he spoke, understood and thought as a child. But, when he became a man (a passing reference to the post-canon period in transition) he put away (abolished by replacement) childish, not yet mature, stuff.

In v. 12 Paul carries the comparison further: ‘For’ expresses resumption of the previous thought. Paul now compares the pre-canon period to the eternal state. After we receive the Holy Bible our knowledge of Jesus Christ will remain obscure until we reach the eternal state when we are face-to-face with Jesus. That is Paul’s main point in comparing the pre-canon period, first with the post-canon period in v. 11, and then with the eternal state in v. 12.

Indeed, everything God revealed to humankind through the temporary gifts of knowledge and prophesy is in the Holy Bible. God’s Word is perfect (1 Cor. 13:10). Apart from the Holy Bible there is no new knowledge or prophesy that comes from God.

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Side Note: 1 Cor. 13:1-7, and the beginning of v. 8, is all about love, which is eternal. By contrast, however, prophesy, tongues, and knowledge were temporary gifts (v.8); they gave us partial understanding (v.9). But, when God’s Word came by the Holy Bible, God abolished the temporary gifts (v.10).

By Roland G (wrote 1651 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/2/2012 16:06 pm

2 Cor.3:18.”But we all,with open face behold things as in a glass the glory of the Lord,are changed into the same image from glory to glory even as by the Spirit of god.”
We are having dark views or imperfect reflections in this world.In heaven we will have perfect views.
We are having partial knowledge here on this earth.In heaven we will have perfect knowledge.

By Alex (wrote 499 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/13/2009 16:50 pm

We all know 2Ti 3:16, “All scripture is given by inspiration of God … ” But have you ever considered the verse after it? 2Ti 3:17

Also note that 2Tim 3:17 is saying that Scripture was ultimately given to make men “perfect,” What else can make a man perfect but that which is perfect? And in the context of 2Tim 3:16 - we’re talking about a perfect Bible! (Keep in mind that Paul is the Writer of both 1Cor and 2Tim).

In fact, if the Bible is not “perfect,” according to the Bible, you aren’t saved. “Being born again, NOT OF CORRUPTIBLE seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.” (1Pe 1:23)

By Jason W. Elder (wrote 321 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/13/2009 06:25 am