Exodus 4: 24 Commentary

Re 21: Only idiots resort to rage and insults. I think I have explained this verse well enough.

By Charles (wrote 1421 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/23/2011 03:35 am

The verse says what it needs to say…God sought to kill Moses for his transgression! As to the reason(s) why, God had put readers to a suspense what it was or were? so what so strange with that?

Only a fool would consider this as a proof that there is no God or that God is not God because of what He tried to do. Those who do not fear God will never have the knowledge! Keep on mocking old hag,99% your time is nearer than the four of us since you are the oldest 67 years old and still like a baby wolf! Quite harmless…we thought you were the BIG BAD WOLF, instead i see you now as an old but little frail wolf ik ik ik! LOL! Pardon my insults it is just to color our fight hahaha!

By TIUCHE (wrote 3262 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/23/2011 02:04 am

There have been ONLY THREE COMMENTS on this verse - the first three. You, Harold Campbell, did not make any comments about this verse. Neither did your little friend Tiuche. Starting with post 4 you 5 you both got into a rage and said nothing at all about this verse.

These verses - because 4:24 has to be taken together with 4:25 and 4:26 - are about the importance of circumcision, but the way the story evolves leaves more questions than it answers. In Gen. 17:14 God had told Abraham: “And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.” Amazingly Moses and his wife Zipporah fail to follow this dictate. Considering that Moses was the chosen leader of God’s people, this is significant. Even more significant is the fact that God tries to kill Moses. The very Moses who was destined by God to deliver the Jews out of Egypt was about to be killed by God’s sword!

Bible apologists have struggled to explain this strange story. Even the avant-garde Matthew Henry admits the iniquity: “God’s displeasure against him. He met him, and, probably by a sword in an angel’s hand, sought to kill him. This was a great change; very lately God was conversing with him, and lodging a trust in him, as a friend; and now he is coming forth against him as an enemy.”

Henry also acknowledges Zipporah’s rebellion (which I explained in post 3): These are his words: “Zipporah does it, whether with passionate words (expressing her dislike of the ordinance itself, or at least the administration of it to so young a child, and in a journey)” and, later “only Zipporah cannot forget the fright she was in, but will unreasonably call Moses a bloody husband.”

In post 3 I also pointed to the fact that Moses let his wife call the shots, both in not performing the circumcision and then in doing it under fear of God’s sword. Henry opines that “Moses is unable to circumcise him”. he doesn’t say how he arrived at that conclusion.

Here’s the link to Henry’s commentary:
http://www.studylight.org/com/mhc-com/view.cgi?book=ex&chapter=004

By Charles (wrote 1421 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 21:36 pm

Charles Fiott (Post #18): I see you have changed your mind about Posts #10 and #11 (Your rage must have calmed down). Regarding Posts #5 & #8: God commissions every believer with authority to preach the Gospel. God said, “Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.” So every gospel communication by any believer consistent with the Word of God is an “official” communication. There is nothing delusional about that. You need not be jealous of believers. You can join the winner’s circle by believing in Jesus Christ as Savior. God also says all Scripture is God-breathed and profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for instruction in righteousness. Now, it is not my fault that you do not understand the things of God. Nor, is my saying so delusional because what I say is supported by God’s Word. Post #8 is a true statement from the Word of God. All you can do is argue and complain, which is understandable because God said you would find His Word foolish (1 Cor. 1:18; 1 Cor. 2:14).

By Roland G (wrote 1651 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 20:34 pm

Re 17. Harold Camping:
Your posts 5 and 8 are delusional of yourself and an attack on me.
Your post 8 was sarcastic remark aimed at me.
Your little friend tried to discredit me in post 4 and attack me in post 11.

Look, none of this bothers me. I only noted it because you and your little friend are wasting everybody’s time attacking me instead of discussing the Bible. I want to discuss the Bible. That’s all I want to do. In post 3 I put out an honest comment and instead of discussing that or offering your own views you and your little friend jumped at me like a pack of wild dogs.

By Charles (wrote 1421 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 19:10 pm

Charles Fiott (Post #16): Saying Thank you is a personal attack? I think you have lost objectivity.

By Roland G (wrote 1651 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 18:18 pm

Tiuche and all Bible apologists: if you don’t want to hear the truth, you can ignore my comments. Nobody’s forcing you to read them. The fact that they’re hurting you so much means you’re afraid of the truth.

I want to write about the Bible. I don’t want to write about you or Harold Camping or any other enraged extremist. My comments in post 3 were (a) researched, (b) honest and (c) to the point. You will not find any serious Bible commentary that would dispute anything I said. Check, for example, this from the Dallas Theological Seminary: http://faculty.gordon.edu/hu/bi/ted_hildebrandt/otesources/02-exodus/Text/Articles/Allen-Ex4-Bloody-BSac.pdf

On the other hand your comments in post 4, 5, 8, 10, 11 etc. are all PERSONAL ATTACKS.

That’s the difference between you and me.

By Charles (wrote 1421 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 14:49 pm

The truth that you are against the Bible & the Biblical God is quite clear! And the truth that you won’t admit that you have a wrong attitude and wrong sense of understanding what is true, is also quite clear! Despite the fact that you are quite old you behave like a child…who has limited senses…but i think you know what you are doing Charles-even your blasphemy against God and His Word…Christians had been quite tolerant with you inclduing the Lord Jesus and God the Father, but it seems all the grace that are being extended to you, you don’t appreciate them at all. We will continue to pray for you that God will have mercy on you and of course to all of us!

By TIUCHE (wrote 3262 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 14:20 pm

May people stop mocking and eluding themselves. The truth shall prevail.

By Charles (wrote 1421 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 14:11 pm

Thankyou Tiuche and Roland for your words of advice and taking the time to answer my Question. Christ Jesus is my King and the victory is his. May he forgive those who mock and scoff at his Holy word!

By Ian McKay (wrote 2 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 13:49 pm

Ha ha. Both Tiuche and Hrold Camping know I’m an objective debater and I don’t need to lie.

By Charles (wrote 1421 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 12:03 pm

I agree with Roland G. the inner man of charles can be clearly seen through the words he thus had written!

By TIUCHE (wrote 3262 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 11:19 am

Charles Fiott (Post #9): Thank you for sharing what is in your inner man.

By Roland G (wrote 1651 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 06:12 am

Roland, you’re the one who rejects Jesus Christ. You said that believing in his teaching has no bearing on salvation.

Roland, you’re the one who can’t interpret the Bible properly, because you’re so haplessly and hopelessly biased that oftentimes you quarrel with the KJV translations when you don;t agree with the Bible.

You lie when you say I’m an avowed agnostic. I am not an avowed anything. I am an unbiased commenter who can see things clearly without cobwebs in my eyes and without getting angry.

Your angry behavior doesn’t bother me, but it disgraces this website.

By Charles (wrote 1421 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 04:19 am

Charles (Post #7): Jesus Christ whom you reject IS the proper authority who authorizes communication of His Word. So any commentary consistent with His Word as contained in the Holy Bible is “official.”

Now, the Holy Bible says unbelievers cannot interpret God’s Word correctly. As an avowed agnostic God’s Word says ALL of your commentaries are indeed “unofficial.” So I can understand your rage.

By Roland G (wrote 1651 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 03:51 am

Roland aka Harold Camping: you are a disgrace! Nobody here is an official interpeter, least of all a pretender like yourself who gets everything wrong.

By Charles (wrote 1421 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 03:34 am

Ian McKay (Post #1): Click on the external link below and read what is happening in easy English. The commentaries are dependable and reliable. After you read the story let us know if you have questions about what is happening.

http://www.easyenglish.info/english-learners-bible/exodus-taw.htm

By Roland G (wrote 1651 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 03:05 am

Charles Fiott (Post #3): “This is a site for anyone who wants to post comments about the Bible. Answers given here are not “official”.” All answers are “official” if they are consistent with God’s Word. The authority of a commentary comes from the text based on the Word of God.

By Roland G (wrote 1651 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 03:01 am

Ian: Be careful of Charles he is against the Bible!

By TIUCHE (wrote 3262 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/22/2011 02:36 am

Hello Ian, and welcome.

This is a site for anyone who wants to post comments about the Bible. Answers given here are not “official”.

These verses are about the importance of circumcision in the Judaic faith. We should note how seriously God thought of this requirement. In Gen. 17:14 he tells Abraham: “And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.” Despite this, it appears that Zipporah (Moses’ wife) had refused to have her child circumcised. This made God so mad that he sought to kill Moses. At this point Zipporah performed circumcision on her son, but she did this very angrily.

All three players in this story appear to behave quite uncharacteristically:

1. God appears quite indecisive. First he appoints as leader of the Jews someone who, according to his own words, should have been “cut off from his people”; then he apparently would have killed this very leader had Zipporah not found a sharp stone and circumcised her son.

2. Moses is portrayed in a very passive way. He has allowed his son to go uncircumcised and he doesn’t seem to act even as God seeks to kill him.

3. Contrary to what we expect from Biblical wives, Zipporah is portrayed as a rebellious wife. She apparently makes family decisions regarding something as important as circumcision and, rather than be contrite, she lashes out angrily at her husband in verses 25 and 26.

By Charles (wrote 1421 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/21/2011 20:09 pm

hey ian: basically if you were to read Genesis 17:9-14 explains this for Exodus 24

Genesis 17:9-14
9 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.
10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.
11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.
12 And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.
13 He that is born in thy house, and he that is bought with thy money, must needs be circumcised: and my covenant shall be in your flesh for an everlasting covenant.
14 And the uncircumcised man child whose flesh of his foreskin is not circumcised, that soul shall be cut off from his people; he hath broken my covenant.

And for Exodus 25 read Joshua 5:2-9

Joshua 5:2-9
2 At that time the LORD said unto Joshua, Make thee sharp knives, and circumcise again the children of Israel the second time.
3 And Joshua made him sharp knives, and circumcised the children of Israel at the hill of the foreskins.
4 And this is the cause why Joshua did circumcise: All the people that came out of Egypt, that were males, even all the men of war, died in the wilderness by the way, after they came out of Egypt.
5 Now all the people that came out were circumcised: but all the people that were born in the wilderness by the way as they came forth out of Egypt, them they had not circumcised.
6 For the children of Israel walked forty years in the wilderness, till all the people that were men of war, which came out of Egypt, were consumed, because they obeyed not the voice of the LORD: unto whom the LORD sware that he would not shew them the land, which the LORD sware unto their fathers that he would give us, a land that floweth with milk and honey.
7 And their children, whom he raised up in their stead, them Joshua circumcised: for they were uncircumcised, because they had not circumcised them by the way.
8 And it came to pass, when they had done circumcising all the people, that they abode in their places in the camp, till they were whole.
9 And the LORD said unto Joshua, This day have I rolled away the reproach of Egypt from off you. Wherefore the name of the place is called Gilgal unto this day.

I hope this helps you. There is a lot more there but I pray this helps you to understand what is going on and why. For you see Moses was in such a hurry that he forget to do GOD’S order of things since he was raised a prince of Egypt and understood their ways he knew nothing of his GOD and his house wasn’t under the covenant or the sign of circumcision. For this was the way to show you were a child and believer of GOD and followed GOD’S way. Just as today we have the HOLY SPIRIT as a guide/comforter but we have the BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST as a seal/sign/token/circumcision. AMEN… Also circumcision was only given to the Jews at that time in the world for they were chosen by GOD.

By angel fraijo (wrote 400 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/21/2011 19:49 pm

Dear Sir/Madam I would just like help in understanding what is being said in Ex 4 v24-27.
Thank you for you time.

By Ian McKay (wrote 2 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 10/21/2011 17:03 pm