Genesis 2: 7 Commentary

Hello sir,
Recently, simillar question arose in my church during our weekly Bible study, that Gen 1 vs26 referred to creation of the first human B while Gen 2 vs7 also referred to another creation of human B. Now the question is that where are the first one where are they? Or is there any symbolical meaning attached to these two passages?

By Patrick (wrote 1 Bible Commentary - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/11/2012 16:00 pm

Post #384, Angel: Forgot. Should respond b4 signing off - r u genuinely asking, or just making sure I have the right answers? Signing off for a while.

By TSnow (wrote 285 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/30/2012 00:02 am

TSNOW: WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY .

By angel (wrote 400 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/25/2012 01:09 am

TSNOW:

if you look back at genesis 1:26-27; GOD had just created adam. lets look at genesis 1:26 and see what transpires.

genesis 1:26-27:
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

now i have a question for you; this is still during creation; right; so what does the bible say GOD’S form is? i will give you a hint; genesis 1:2… this is were you will find your answer. you shall see it was spirit man first then a created vessel of clay that the spirit indwelled and became man of flesh. this is to scripture. for GOD never changes or alters his ways of doing things. this was a type/shadow of what GOD was going to do when he came to earth.

now here are a few questions for you.

(1.) what is the logos?
(2.) who are the logos?
(3.) was it 6 days of creation to GOD or 6,000 days to man?
(4.) did time start in the beginning of creation, in the garden after creation, or after the exiting of the garden?
(5.) did GOD sacrifice the atonement lamb he already created or did he create another?
(6.) when GOD walked in flesh with adam; who did he look like?
(7.) when and what date did adam and eve leave the garden?
(8.) what date was it when GOD sacrificed the lamb?

By angel (wrote 400 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/21/2012 03:50 am

From post #107 under Jn.1:1 - Gen.2:7 teaches, that God formed the phys aspect of man(kind) from the dust of the ground, then breathed His own breath of life into the form He had made, and man became a living being.

By TSnow (wrote 285 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/20/2012 06:01 am

Mark (Post #381): See comment under 1 Tim. 2:5.

By Roland G (wrote 1651 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/15/2012 20:09 pm

I Tim 2:5 There is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Jesus. Who is this man that mediates ? Is he and eternal Man? He is mentioned with the one God as a man but are we suppose to believe he is both man an God? There is no mention of this Greek godman here.

By Mark (wrote 124 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/15/2012 17:55 pm

No, dear TSnow, I do not think of myself more highly. I am lowly, a wretched sinner saved by GRACE. I am nothing, I am not learned nor am I very articulate. I’ve not been to any of the grand colleges nor do I fellowhip w/ the elite. I am a wife , a mother, a daughter & a sister. I was dying physically & most definitely spirtually. I cried in desperation not even knowing what I was crying out for, but….the God of great grace & mercy heard my feeble cry & I found His Son, Y’shua, my Savior, Brother, Lord & Bridegroom & I am still learning of His Father, an infinite God with majesty I can never comprehend.
No, dearst TSnow, I know who & what I am & what I’ve crawled out of. I know it all too well. But I also know when I cried in utter despair,”Where is TRUTH!”, God picked me up & placed me in an enviroment where I could begin to learn of Him & find the truth I was so desperately seeking.
All I want to know is………….why won’t anyone anwer my questions? Why are they always ignored & replaced w/a pompous rebuke? That, I just don’t understand.
God Bless you TSnow & Scott Dale………..you know the heart of Agape I have for you
In His Grip

By Candace (wrote 286 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/9/2012 06:13 am

Re-post #376: just to tag-on what was posted earlier - Candace, you’re reading a lot of verses, though missing what they teach.
With regard to the spirit in which post #376 was written - “…Do not think of yourself more highly than you ought, but rather think of yourself with sober judgment, in accordance with the measure of faith God has given you” [Rom.12:3].

By TSnow (wrote 285 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/8/2012 00:05 am

Post #368 - this is agreeable. I will now move to Jn.1:1-2.

By TSnow (wrote 285 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/7/2012 18:40 pm

Once again I will ask the apparent inconvenient question:

What is the offspring of plant?

What is the offspring of animal?

What is the offspring of man?

What is the offspring of God?

Do you not realize that all the sons of Adam who have ever been or will ever be (save One) were in his loins from the day of his creation?? We share his created DNA.

Do you not realize that the Son of God was IN the Father from His eternal, uncreated “beginning”? He and his Father share the same uncreated DNA.

This is what it means to be a “Son”. Why is this so hard to understand? Does this equate to the existence of 2 Gods? Not at all for they are of the same Spirit! This is the perfect model and standard from which the union of marriage is patterned: “The two shall become one flesh”. Is it a mystery? Absolutely! But when Jesus says; “I and the Father are One” we should just believe it!

Quit trying to re-define the meaning of Son. Do you not know that this very designation testifies to the eternal “God-ness” of Jesus? The bible does not need to say “God, the Son” in order to validate this point for it is firmly established in the single phrase: “The Son of God”!

By Scott Dale (wrote 581 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/7/2012 17:09 pm

Dearest TSnow, talking to you or any of you is like banging my head against a brick wall. You are so steeped in religious dogma & doctrines of men, you can’t or won’t see what God’s word is really saying. Not one of you , not one, will answer when I ask…”why, if Y’shua is God, does he still have a God in heaven???? (Rev 3:12) And he’s still God’s Christ???? (Rev 12:10) Why is he still the Lamb standing before the Throne of Yahweh? Why does Yahweh sit on His Great Throne as poor John is weeping because he thinks there is none worthy to open the 7 seals until one is found worthy….The Lamb of God. Yahweh does not open the scroll, Y’shua does. The one that laid down his life that we have life. The Lamb slain since the foundation of the world.(none of you seem to understand what that means either) Are there 2 Gods????
Now dear TSnow, will you answer my question????? Why does Jesus have a God, His Father? Jesus is a glorified man, the Last Adam & we are to become just like him. Redeemed back to what Adam & Eve were to begin with. That’s what redemption is! They were glorious! Beautiful. Perfect! Cothed in the Glory of God. Nothing seperating them from God. Y’shua bought that back by NOT sinning & dying a cruel & horrible death. He bled. He was the Passover Lamb that the Jews had been sacrificing for 100s of yrs. Those lambs were a type of the True LAMB. God/Yahweh IS NOT THE LAMB.
An “IMAGE” IS not God….An image represents God. God IS SPIRIT. No man can see Him. He manifested Himself through His Son. If you look into a mirror you see your IMAGE, It’s not really you. Why is that so hard to understand. Yahweh manifested Himself as a burning bush, a pillar of fire, a pillar of smoke , through the Angel Of the LORD ( which means angel of YAHWEH not Yeshua/Jesus). None of those manifestations where God. They were His agents that an Almighty, Supreme Being might communicate w/ lowly us. Y’shua/Jesus was God’s finest attempt to touch us. Y’shua is His/Yahweh’s ONLY Begotten. Not that God was producing another God, but a SON! The firstborn of many “BRETHREN”. We’re his/Y’shua’s brethren. We’re not God’s brethren. We’re His children.
You’ve all done such violation to the scripture it makes me weep. “All things that were created where created FOR HIM & THROUGH HIM/Jesus”! God , created all that He created in anticipation of His Son. God is not trapped or bound in time as we are ….HE KNOWS THE END FROM THE BEGINNING. Read it in Hebrew, please. And read it in Greek or Arabic. Allow the Scripture to tell you what they are really saying. Not what the Catholic Church has said they say for the last 1600 years.
Open your eyes…..the KJV is Catholic for the most part. They have their own version also. The Dead Sea Scrolls weren’t even found yet. Many manuscripts that date even earlier than some of the manuscripts available in King James day, weren’t even found yet. There are so many mis translations in the KJV, that it’s a wonder any of us were saved! I was saved & taught, baptized in the H.S. through the KJV but there is so much more to be understood if we can be more noble as the Bereans.
In His Grip.

By Candace (wrote 286 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/7/2012 07:53 am

Post #324, Candace: You mentioned all things were created by God, or YAHWEH. Paul teaches us clearly regarding Jesus Christ - “He (Jesus)is the image of the invisible God, the first born over all creation. For by Him all things were created

By TSnow (wrote 285 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/7/2012 01:49 am

Forgive all my typos, I have a kitty who insists on sitting on my hands as I try to type
Tractorman, I must say one last thing to you from my inner most being. I am so sick & tired of being called a “heretic” I could scream. Sadly, according to God’s word, the ones that make the “Christ” God are the heretics & have a false Christ. Not my words but God’s. I Jn 2:22 “Who is a liar at all, if not the person who denies that Yahsua is the Messiah (anointed one)? Such a person is an anti-Messiah - he’s denying the Father & the Son. Everyone who denies the Son is also without the Father.” CJB.
I suggest reading this in the Greek & do a word study on just what “Christ” & Messiah” mean.
With ALL respect, C S.

By Candace (wrote 286 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/5/2012 20:41 pm

please, please excuse me, my computer has a mind of it’s own. HIS NAME shall be called eternal Father , Almighty God etc. His Name. He has his Father’s name….Yahshua = Yahweh Saves. He’ll retrun w/ a NEW NAME, an attribute of his Father. This a profound revelation for those that are seeking truth not traditions of men. Mark 7:8; Col 2:8
John 20:28 Thomas is acknowledging Y’shua was truly God’s Messiah, the promised Savior from the tribe of Judah (God is from no tribe) And Thomas is acknowledging that “THE FULLNESS OF GOD DWELT IN HIM”.(Col 1:19) I do believe it also means Thomas recognized that Y’shua came as “a god” meaning “having the authority given by God to speak as His Representive”. I base that on the many times in the O.T. where angels, judges & even Moses were called god. Jesus, himself said…”know ye not that ye are “gods” (having authority) Jn 10:34 Was not Y’shua sent by God to do His will? Did he not speak w/ authority given to him by His Father? Was he not obedient to his Father in all things? Is he not our patern Son to emulate? Are we not to become just like the Son having the mind of Christ having our minds transformed & coming into the measure & stature of the FULLNESS of Chirst? Is not his Body to be as glorious as his head?
I do not diminish in any way that Y’shua is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD”! He freely laid down his life that we be saved. He did not have to. He was w/out sin. There is NO WAY to the Father but thru the Son. He is my Lord & Savoir. Yahshua’s & my Father is YAHWEH, Almighty & Sovereign God. “there is ONE God & ONE Mediator between God & men…..the MAN Christ Jesus.”
Much love & I sincerely do write w/ a heart of Agape. With much apology, I think I am done here. Please forgive me & give me grace.

By Candace (wrote 286 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/5/2012 20:15 pm

Thank you so much Mark…well said. The Chrch has been buried in paganism since the 3rd & rth centuries & traditions die so hard. I invite anyone to read carefully about the Emperor Canstatine & his mother & then read the teachings & foundations of the Catholic Chirch. It’s all there.
DEAREST TIUNCHE, I repect you deeply & I thank you that you are evr a gentlemen. I thank you also for the opporunity in explaining why I believe as I do.
Your statement that your believe the Father is “greater” than the Son can only meant thereare 2 Gods! If 2 that is clearly pilitheism. One greater & eternal the other subservient & capable of death. In Jesus said after all his enemies are put under his feet, he/Jesus will turn the Kingdom back over to God THAT GOD BE ALL & ALL! (I Cor 15:25-28) What are to do w/ these scriptures? What about Rev 3:12 where Jesus clearly speaks of His God????
In answer to you question concerning that very familar scripture in Isaiah…..pleas read more carefully. It does not say Messiah will be eternal Father, Almighty God….it says HIS NAME

By Candace (wrote 286 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/5/2012 19:43 pm

Mark: In the beginning God (Elohim-plural) made man in THEIR (not His) own image…please review that in your bible. And please relate and compare your belief that Jesus was a mere man to the two verse I gave in post#369.

By TIUCHE (wrote 3264 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/5/2012 16:39 pm

When you start with Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created it was the singular God who made them in his not there image. Then in psalm 33:6 he explains he created by the breath of his mouth he spoke and it happened. Is 44-45 talk about I alone, no one else is God and no one is beside me. His son now sits at his right hand. Deut 18:18 explains that after Moses another prophet would come and God would put the words in his mouth. Once one works thru the old testament he has established the Shema and latter one can approach the pagon Greek new testament translated by trinitarians they leaned towards the nicean pagon Rome because that’s what they were taught by tradition.It makes it difficult because main stream has lost there way from compromise.

By mark (wrote 124 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/5/2012 16:34 pm

Candace & Mark: Could you please explain the scriptures below in relation to your belief that the scriptures teaches us that Jesus is only a man and never God: On my Part I believe that Jesus is a man but also the mighty God although lower than His Almighty Father.

John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him(to Jesus), My Lord and my God.

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace…

I am just curious on your interpretation despite the above scriptures.

By TIUCHE (wrote 3264 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/5/2012 13:10 pm

@ Candace - thank you for defining your position - I do not make an attack against your personage (ad hominem), but your VIEW has elements of the heresies of 2nd and 3rd century Dynamic Monarchianism, 2nd and 8th century Adoptionism along with elements of the 4th century heresy of Arianism.

But welcome aboard, and I mean that sincerely… I can’t speak for the ADMIN, but I believe they invite ALL views, as long as we are respectful to one another…

I will no longer comment regarding our conversation on this subject within this verse, because I have already strayed ‘off topic’ of Gen 2:7… this is much more of a John 1:1 topic (but I haven’t posted there YET)….

I therefore invite you to read all my posts and make appropriate comments against the relevant verse if you so desire…

By Tractorman (wrote 3584 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/5/2012 12:11 pm

Tractorman…if I may. If we stay w/only what the scriptures themselves tell us & not what traditions of men & religion teach, then YES, Jesus is FULLY man. He is the promised Seed of a woman. Gen 3:15. The seed of Abraham, from the lineage of David, made like unto his brethren. He learned obedience by the things he suffered. He grew in stature & wisdom & favor w/ God.Luke 2:52 He hungered, he thristed, he grew weary. He was tempted in ALL things such as we. God is NOT tempted neither does He tempt any man. Jesus DIED!. God Can NOT die. He is eternal. No beginning, NO end. God raised him from the dead & seated him on His/God’s right hand of authority. God gave him all authority, all His G;lory. God gave Yahshua his name….”Yahweh Saves”. Jesus was begotten on this day. Acts 13:33 Y’shua/Jesus had a BEGINNING.
Scripture clearly tells us Jesus IS THE LAST ADAM. And it tells us “the FULLNESS of Deity/God dwelt in him/Christ reconcilling the world back to Himself/God Col 2:9 & Col 1:19 This is all scriptures you can research for yourself. Any scripture that appears to say that Y’shua is God is a mistranslation or a misunderstanding of the Hebrew language. There is an honest answer for every question & it will not violate the continuity of the scriptures themselves.
Much Agape

By Candace (wrote 286 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/5/2012 07:38 am

@ Candace and Mark - is Jesus fully God and fully man?

By Tractorman (wrote 3584 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/4/2012 23:20 pm

Hello Tractorman. Yahsua/Jesus never sinned. The scriptures are clear…”God MADE him who had NO sin became sin for our sakes.” 2 Cor 5:21
Jesus had his own free will & his own spirit. We know that by the fact he said in the garden of Gethsemane…”not MY WILL be done…” Lule 22:42
We see a clear veiw of his spirit when he hung on the cross dying & said ….”Father, into Your hands, I commend my spirit.”Luke 23:46. Yahshua/Jesus was perfectly capable of sinning had he desired to or the huge temptations he endured in the wilderness would have been a mockery. He was tempted beyond anything we’ve endured, yet he resisted for the love of His Father & because he knew he was sent by God to ransom the souls of a fallen world. That’s why we have a compassionate & perfect High Priest, MADE like his brethren, who knows our weaknesses ….Heb 2:17
The scriptures tell us He is the LAST ADAM….”where by one man, death entered through sin, now by one man we are made alive.” Ro 5:12 & I Cor 15:22
THE LAST ADAM: I Cor 15:45 “The Father granted the Son to have life. I/Christ live because of the Father” Jn 5:26,57

I do pray that answers your question:)

By Candace (wrote 286 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/4/2012 21:40 pm

@ Candace and Mark - do you think Jesus ever might have sinned while on earth?

By Tractorman (wrote 3584 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/4/2012 19:38 pm

Thanks Mark….a little more about “the word”. In the beginning was the word. That word was Spirit as God is Spirit. In the fullness of time the word became flesh & walked among us as God’s Son, Y’shua. Y’shua said. “the words I speak unto you, they are spirit & they are life.” Jn 6:63. The Word of God has now gone full circle. Y’shua was God’s word made human & he spoke only what the Father gave him to speak…”the words you hear are not my own but the Father’s…”(Jn 14:24) Now, the “word” spoken is released through the Son & they are once more Spirit & they are life.
Y’shua gave us, his body/church, the same commission….to be ambassadors of the Kingdom of his Father & to spread the Good News! (2 Cor 5:20). Just as he was sent by his Father, we are sent by Y’shua. Heb 3:1-4 Y’shua was a “man” approved by God…” Acts 2:22
TSnow, dear brother….”incarnation” is a pagan concept & nowhere to be found in the word of God.

By Candace (wrote 286 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/3/2012 19:12 pm

Tsnow, I have a question for your word, do you dine separately or pay with one check, if your out of town, how do u know your word ate and how did your word pay for his meal? Is your word capable of holding a job or is he living off the state? Does your word have a girl? How does your word get around? Does he drive? So who going to answer u or your word?
When Jesus spoke did he use words or some other form of communications. What happened to the word when Jesus died,did it just hover over the dead man Jesus body crying? How come we didn’t read anything about this poor word suffering so terriblely will his buddy was dead. There is no mention of the word celebrating after the first resurrection of his mate. Deut 18:18 what ever happened to the words that God, Jesus God and father said he would put in his mouth? Can anyone explain the difference between the words that God asked his son to speak and the words Jesus did speak and this so called Word person?

By mark (wrote 124 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/3/2012 17:24 pm

Post #352, Candace: Surely you type with passion. Jesus is referred to also as the Word because He is the medium through which God promulgates His will and issues His commandments [see Col.1:15-20].
John 1:1-18 is about Jesus Christ. Verse 3 testifies; “All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made.” God created all things through His Word - Jesus Christ.
Look back if you will at Col.1, where the apostle writes: “For by Him all things were created; things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by Him and for Him.”
As we saw earlier, Jesus is referred to also as the Word because He is the medium through which God promulgates His will and issues His commandments.
In our home church, when an individual first receives Jesus as Savior, one of the first Bible books suggested for them to read is John. Why? Because it is foundational to the Christian life.
Jesus, being God incarnate, is what the Gospel stands on. If it isn’t true, then there is no Gospel.
God has done it all Himself, Candace. He created us, and in the Person of Jesus He redeemed us from the penalty of sin, and when the Body of Christ on earth [the church] is full He will, in the Person of Jesus, return bodily to take us home forever.

By TSnow (wrote 285 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/2/2012 22:57 pm