Hebrews 1: 5 Commentary

Hello Scott Dale, I have but a few minutes but I am truly wanting to answer your “riddle”. Without an understanding of Hebrew there is confusion but I will try to clear up just a few things for you. YAHWEH IS God Almighty! There is none before Him of after Him (Alpha & Omega)…period. ALL that is & has been created was & is created by Him Alone. Is 44:24. The LORD our God is One LORD. God is Spirit (Jn4:24) Yeshua/Jesus was given his Father’s name but only one facet of the Name above All names….Yahweh Saves.(jn 5:43)(Matt 1:20)Because the FULLNESS of God/Deity dwelt in him (Col 2:9;Col 1:19)Yeshua can surly be called Emannuel/God w/ us. II Cor 5:18 states God was in Christ(anointed one) reconciling the world back to Himself,God. Therefore God IS our ONLY Savior & He saved us TROUGH His ONLY Begotten Son! In Isaiah 9:6 is where the confusion may begin….”his name shall be called wonderful counselor, mighty God, everlasting Father, prince of peace.” We think we are reading Yeshua IS ALL these things but the scriptures clearly are saying…HIS NAME shall be called these things. He has His Father’s Name which is ALL these things & more!!!! Yeshua is “the image of the INVISIBLE God. Col 1:15 & Yeshua is the 1st born of a New Creation! The 1st born of MANY Brethern! I Tim 3:16 & Ro 8:29. He is the Passover Lamb (a sacrifice)the unleaven Bread (no sin) and First Fruit of the harvest indecating many more sheaves to come from the harvest being just like the First Fruit/Yeshua! NOT GOD/Sons! He is the LAST ADAM/man! What the 1st Adam forfeited the Last Adam bought back w/ his blood! God can not bleed, die or be tempted. Yeshua endured them all for our sakes. Yeshua is the Author & Finisher, the first & the last of our faith & of this NEW creation….his Body, his Church. And all authority for this new creation has been given him by GOD! Jn 5:43; Matt 28:18.
In the book of Rev we see both the Father & the Son. With my Jewish Bible it becomes more clear Who is speaking. In Rev 1:4 it reads….To the seven Messianic communities in the province of Asia: Grace & shalom to you from the One who is, who was & who is coming; from the sevenfold Spirit before His throne; AND FROM Yeshua the Messiah, the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead & ruler of the earth’s kings. To him, the one who loves us, who has freed us ffom our sins at the cost of his/Yeshua’s blood, who has caused us to be a kingdom,that is cohanim/priest for GOD, his FATHER. In verse 8 “I am the A & the Z,” says ADONAI, God of heaven’s armies, the One who is, who was & who is coming. (When adonai is spelled w/ all caps it always means THE LORD our GOD. Lower case or capital a only means lord or master etc. LORD always mean Yahweh. I have so much more for you but I have run out of precious time. I will return later. Much Agape & you are in my prayers…Candace

By Candace Sommerfeld (wrote 286 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 9/13/2010 22:42 pm

Yo Marky,

I can’t give you even one verse in the OT where Jesus is speaking; but neither can you give me one verse in the OT that says Jesus never spoke in it. How do you know that the Angel of the Lord that met with Joshua before marching around Jericho was not Jesus? How do you know that the Angel of the Lord that sat with Gideon under the oak tree was not Jesus? How do you know that the “man” who visited Daniel on the banks of the Tigris was not Jesus? In fact, how do you know that it wasn’t Jesus himself who walked in the garden with Adam in the cool of the evening?

The truth is; you DON’T know! But if you had taken some time to study the names of God according to their Hebraic roots and meaning you might think differently about it.., not to mention, you might then be able to solve the riddle which you have conveniently ignored.

By Scott Dale (wrote 581 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 9/12/2010 19:09 pm

Yo Scotty, Is 44:5, Is 44:24 Yahweh, father, God Alone no jesus no second god, give me one scripture in the old testament where Jesus is speaking or saying anything,I’ll show thousands of Yahweh speaking working with and interacting with his,Mark 10:6, not there creation… Icor.8:4-7 there is no wiggle room. Explicite one, not two, definitly not three, but ONE God and Father of all… Scott Does GOD Have A GOD? Jesus has a God therefore he is not GOD John 20:17 God does not have a God because he alone is God. Mark

By Mark (wrote 124 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 9/11/2010 17:52 pm

Kinda buckshot posts here - let me look for the anvil platen here. R U all agreed that Jesus was 100% MAN + 100% God (or 50/50)? If not - then Jesus crucifiction was MOOT - only 100% MAN could pay the price of Adam’s rebellion BUT ONLY if he were 100% innocent (GOD). If these requirements are not meant - it loses in the Court of Law. I think it is rather evident that God’s intention all along was for an incarnate God/Man - and Satan was the intended fall guy - any MAN who falls with him will be of the same “ME FIRST/I’M RIGHT” spirit.

By Dino (wrote 1 Bible Commentary - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 9/11/2010 06:25 am

Hi Scott, Come let us reason together. May we have a spirit of humility & a teachable spirit & ENDEAVOR to keep the unity of the Spirit(in the bond of peace)until we ALL come into the unity of the Faith in the knowledge of the Son of God attaining to the full measure of the stature of Christ (anointed one) Eph 4:3, 13 We are to become just like Christ! Being transformed into his likeness. Not that we become God but sons of God just like our elder Brother who was sent in the likeness of sinful flesh.Ro 8:3
I really want to answer your questions & I will do my best w/ limited time & space. 1st: we must be willing to follow biblical hermeneutics. To lift scripture out of context or build a doctrine out of one scripture, ignoring all the others pertaining to that subject will always bring error. i.e. “line upon line, precept upon precept, here a little, there a little.” There being no private interpetation, we should all be able to come to the same conclusion & really enter into “The Unity Of THE Faith”! Yeshua came w/ one message of The Kingdom, one truth, not many denominations & doctrines & creeds….One. It behooves us all to be as the Bereans & search the scriptures daily to see if these things be true or not. 2: Yeshua has His Father’s name but only one facet of that name above every name. God IS Yahweh! I AM THAT I AM, all that My people will ever need! Yeshua/Jesus literally means….Yahweh Saves or Yahweh is Savior. Yahweh/God anointed His Christ(Rev 12:10) to be that means to redeem us back to God! Christ meaning Anointed One means the Anointer/God is Greater. Yehsua being the perfect Lamb of God is the antitype of every lamb sacrificed since the time Yahweh institued His feasts. 3: as much as we hate to admit it, there are many mistranslations, errors & a definite trinitarian bent to our bibles. The perversion against the orginal manuscripts began in the 3rd, 4th & 5th centuries. When the Catholic Institution became a surpreme power, all manuscripts were confiscated & the common people no longer had access to the word of God. The anti-semitism was so violent, the C.Church was hell bent on destorying all our Hebraic roots & kill every Jew. The pure word of God was translated into Latin & perverted into what we now know as the Catholic Religion.(dead religion rather than relationship w/ Father & Son ) We’ve been making our way out of the dark ages ever since & those embracing our Hebraic roots are coming back to the truth of God’s Word, undefiled w/ doctrines of ungodly men. Being trapped in our Western mindset robs us of understanding the true meaning of Hebrew/Greek words & idioms of that day. It’s a wonder any of us have even been saved! But God…….by His infinite Grace & Mercy, there remains enough unadulterated Word for those who are diligently seeking Him!!! May I humbly recommend 3 incredible books written by godly men who love God’s word & His people & have been ruthlessly persecuted for their stand. “One God & One Lord”; “Christianity’s Self Inflicted Wound” & (I love this one) “Messianic Church Arising”. If you dare, you’ll have more truth than you might be willing to take in….but….KNOW THE TRUTH & THE TRUTH WILL MAKE YOU FREE! Dearest Scott or Scott Dale or Scottsdale, Az, I dearly care about every challenge you’ve made & God willing I WILL answer. But right now I must go & I’ll be back as time permits. W/ much Agape, be Blessed, Candace p.s. no,I’m not Unitarian, Arian, Jehovah’s Witness, Mormon, Christadelphian or any of these! I am a child of God, redeemed back to Him by the blood of the Lamb, my Savior, Brother , Friend & Bridegroom & I eagerally await & prepare my heart for His return.

By Candace Sommerfeld (wrote 286 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 9/2/2010 17:40 pm

Mark,

Your rebuttal is so full of holes it is simply not worth responding to. I suggest you lay your faulty beliefs aside long enough to AT LEAST study the Names of God. After that, try again to solve the riddle.

By Scott Dale (wrote 581 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 9/2/2010 11:02 am

Scott your riddle as you called it, Rev. 1:17 Fear not I”am the first, Same I’am from John 8:58 in which Jesus is telling the Pharisses that he is before Abraham and Abraham rejoiced to see the Messiah the one whom Yahweh raised up from among the line of Jessie Deut 18:18 back to Rev.1 17 As you can imagine the fear in Johns mind and Jesus is declaring to John I AM the first Human being to ever recieve Eternal life forever! He couldn’t of made this statement if he ever had life before.So he declares being the first in creation From the human to the spiritual. ICor 15:45-46 the physical first then comes the spiritual. This second creation from Yahweh now paves the way for all mankind. He is the first and last because he is the way and the truth and the life. Nothing here about prexistance… Mark

By Mark (wrote 124 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 9/2/2010 03:04 am

So sorry Scott Dale…I’m swamped w/ a million pressing things on my plate. I am looking forward to addressing your questions. I just don’t want to engage in an endless battleif you’re right I’m wrong. I am only 2 days new to this site. As of yet I don’t know what kind of persecution, if any, these brethren will give me but I do know the horrible onslaught my husband & I have been enduring for over 5 yrs now. It’s the same spirit, it never changes. I keep looking for the saints that are walking in the love Yeshua discribed….”they will know you are My disciples by the love you have for one another”. It’s a love that will literally lay itself down for another. I must admit I don’t find that very often if ever. I promise Scott Dale, I will answer you. I am not avoiding you in any way. It’s corp tax time & I’m so very far behind, In His Grip….Candace

By Candace Sommerfeld (wrote 286 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 9/1/2010 05:56 am

Candace and Mark,

If you have a persecution complex, it is of your own choosing. I see where no one on this thread has “risen up against you like Satan himself”.

On the contrary, you both seem bent on ignoring scriptures that declare the divinity of Christ. I quoted from Philippians and you never addressed it.

You seem to have trouble with the idea that if Jesus is God and Jesus died; then God died and (apparently) that simply cannot be! But what if the scriptures clearly declare it? Will you believe it then?

I have a riddle for you:

Is it true that Israel’s King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty says of Himself in Isa. 44:6; “I am the FIRST and I am the LAST; APART FROM ME THERE IS NO GOD”?

Is it not also true that Jesus the Son declares in Rev. 22:13; “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the FIRST and the LAST, the Beginning and the End”?

And finally, is it not also true that Someone “like a son of man” in Rev. 1:17-18 shouts with a voice as a trumpet blast; “I am the FIRST and the LAST. I am the Living One; I WAS DEAD, and behold, I am alive for ever and ever”.

So, if the Eternal God is God; and he cannot die, who then is the Someone speaking with the voice of a trumpet blast??

If you can answer this riddle correctly, I will be happy “to hear your side & why you believe the way you do”.

By Scott Dale (wrote 581 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 8/31/2010 21:03 pm

I couldn’t agree w/ you more Mark. This is where the division & heated debates arise. Yehusa is THE SON OF GOD not “God the Son” which can be found No where in all of Scripture. It’s refreshing indeed to hear a few others begin to step out & declare the truth. It’s been our grievious experience when confronted by our so called Christian Brethren….”is Jesus God”, rather then having a teachable spirit they rise up against us like satan himself. They don’t want to hear our side & why we believe the way we do. They would crucify us it were legally possible. We have encountered the “same” spirit in our brethren that put Yeshua to death. I’ve wept many tears for my unteachable brethren that have cast us out in a self righteous attitude & never seem to care enough about our eternal salvation to help us come into truth if we are truly deceived. Instead they treat us like we have the plague & warn all our friends to avoid us lest the same “angel of light” jump on them. By their very rejection & errogance proves what spirit they are of. If they were truly walking in Agape they would be eager to sit down & “reason together” but they never do. They will always argue using unbiblical words & concepts standing on doctrines, creeds & traditions of men rather than the pure Word of God. I’ve never felt more alone but neither would I trade the Awesome Revelation of knowing Who the Son of God truly is! He’s “The Lamb of God” not God the Lamb. Our spotless, sinless sacrifice that every lamb ever sacrificed was pointing to. They were but the shadow, Yeshua is the fulfillment! It’s worth All the persecution I will ever endure & I thank Father He has found me worthy to suffer for His namesake. More love than mere words can express. Candace

By Candace Sommerfeld (wrote 286 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 8/31/2010 16:55 pm

All I’am saying is give peace a chance! Your mind has inflected the dislextic understanding… The reverse of the counterfit. Jesus is the Son not the Father, brother or partner of Yahweh… Yahweh Jehovah father LORD Adonia eternal and in English the Title GOD almighty Jesus posses none of these titles. Jesus is the meadiator between God and man the man. 1tim 2:5 For there is ONE God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Jesus. So now you can start to have a personal relationship with the father who is the only true God. Jesus is the path to the one and only true God , his God and your God Yahweh father… Peace Mark

By Mark (wrote 124 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 8/31/2010 15:18 pm

Candace,

“I don’t know how to give you my email address w/out making myself vulnerable to an attack by everyone????”

I believe I understand your intent. I too hate opening myself up to pointless attack and fruitless debate. However, as important as our Hebraic roots are, there is no more divisive issue with an Orthodox Jew than the divinity of Jesus. It requires thick skin to venture a rebuttal. But you said you have “some wonderful truths to share”. If they are truly wonderful, I don’t think you have anything to fear on this forum.

It’s just that I can’t imagine a more wonderful truth than:

“Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself and became obedient to death– even death on a cross”

for my sins.

If your “truths” are more wonderful than this, please share the “good news” with everyone on the forum.

By Scott Dale (wrote 581 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 8/31/2010 12:43 pm

Dearest Scott Dale, I would very much like to respond personally to you if I may. If you are willing to give me your email address, I have some wonderful truths to share. I am not interested in a heated debate or fighting over God’s pure word. I am only interested in those who want to understand the bible from a Hebraic perspective. Knowing the language the Word of God was actually written in makes ALL the difference in truly understanding what Yahweh, Elohim (God) was speaking to us through His prophets. There is a glorious unfolding of revelation for those who will diligently ask, knock, seek….with much Love, Candace. I don’t know how to give you my email address w/out making myself vulnerable to an attack by everyone????

By Candace Sommerfeld (wrote 286 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 8/31/2010 07:16 am

If you are saying that Jesus is not God, then we have a verrry big problem on our hands theologically. Referring to Jesus as “God the Son” is most definitely NOT heresy. Stripping Jesus of his Divinity most definitely IS heresy. Don’t try to comprehend the nature of God. How can the mortal comprehend the immortal? How can the finite comprehend the infinite? How can the pot comprehend the potter?

Unless God reveals himself to us through his word; we know NOTHING! All we will ever know is what he has CHOSEN to reveal; we do not know what he has NOT revealed. And what he has revealed is that Jesus is fully God and fully Man.

We don’t have to comprehend it in order to believe it.

By Scott Dale (wrote 581 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 8/31/2010 03:14 am

Thank you, Mark!!!! So few understnad “THE SON OF GOD vs God the the Son” which is heresy! If Yeshua is God than God died! Yeshua clearly STILL has a God as “the Glorified Man”, “The LAST Adam” seated at the right hand (place of power) of the Father. i.e. 2 Cor 11:30-31 the God & Father of the Lord Jesus.; Eph 1:3; Acts 2:33; Eph 1:17; 2 Pet 1:16-17; Matt 17:1-5; 2Pet 1:18; 1Pet 1-3; John 20:17. In heaven, NOW, Yeshua speaks of his God….Rev 3:2; Rev 3:12-14….the temple of his God, name of his God, city of his God decending from his God with his New Name! Yeshua is our High Priest after the order of Melchizedek FOREVER, our Intercessor & Mediator, THE MAN CHRIST JESUS!!!! In the Complete Jewish Bible in 1 Jn 4:1-3 reads if we don’t believe Yeshua came as a “human being” than we have another Christ. If we have another Christ, we don’t have the Father & if we don’t have the Father…we DON”T have salvation! This is a very serious situation & I emplore, beg & cry out for each & every one to search the scriptures for TRUTH! In His Grip, Candace S.

By Candace Sommerfeld (wrote 286 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 8/30/2010 19:07 pm

God said, “Your throne, O God, is eteranl” Hebrew 1:9

Isaiah prophesied of Jesus, “His name shall be everlasting Father” Isa.9:6

By Jayant Christian (wrote 287 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 5/6/2010 22:25 pm

What Im saying is that Jesus is the son Of the one and only true God Mark 12:28-32 Jesus has a God. God Yahweh father has no God for he is God alone. Is 44:6-8 Thank you Mark

By Mark (wrote 124 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 5/6/2010 18:06 pm

I am sorry, Mark, I failed to understand that you are not contending that Jesus was an angel or anything else, but that he is a mere mortal man. But for me He is my God and my Lord and it won’t help me to understand otherwise. You raised the question calling for others’ views and now it is upto you to share your views.

By Jayant Christian (wrote 287 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 5/3/2010 00:13 am

Correction in Heb.1:1-5

By Mark (wrote 124 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/30/2010 20:01 pm

I will state for the third time Jesus was never an Angel or anything else he was a man born of a women like you and me the difference is his father is Yahweh the one and only true God. The point was the father in 2tim was saying he in past times spoke to us through other means but now that his son has come into existence he has spoken through him.
Mark I will answer the rest when Im sure you understand this.

By Mark (wrote 124 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/30/2010 20:00 pm

I don’t contend against 1 Timothy 2:5, for Jesus Christ is truly and fully Man. There is no better mediator between God and men, for He is both truly and fully Man and truly and fully God, as stated in Phil. 2:6-7. (To contend that Jesus is not man is to have the spirit of antichrist, and to contend that he is not God is to have the Spirit of the Arch enemy of God, as John clearly brings our in his epistles.)You are drawing attention to margin where it is written privileges to explain how he emptied himself. But you put the text even out of the margin. Here it is stated that he was God, but emptied himself, that is of privileges as God. But you try to hide that and say it refers to his kingship! Yes, he was God and he became man!
You set out to prove from Hebrew 1 that Jesus is one of the angels. I have replied that it is not so. You attempt to lower Jesus by putting him in the category of created angelic beings. But suppose, as you believe that Jesus is one of the angels, are you not suggesting the pre-existence of Jesus! You have not explained John 12:41, where it is said that Jesus is Yahweh seen by Isaiah in chapter 6 of the book. The New World Translation in its later edition even omits the cross-reference John12:41 and Isaiah 6:1!
Ezekiel show in his vision (1:26-28 ) “the appearance of a man above upon it.” It is explained there as, “This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD”. How do you explain this appearance of man in the visions of God? (verse 1)
And yes, as stated in Isaiah 44 and elsewhere, there is no beside the Lord. But have you taken into consideration Isaiah 48:16 “Come ye near unto me, hear ye this; I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; from the time that it was, there am I: and now the Lord GOD, and his Spirit, hath sent me?” where there is a refererence to the Lord God and His Spirit sending I AM? Or have you considered Isaiah 40: 3-5 telling about the “Preparing the way for the LORD…… a highway for our God” and that it applies to Jesus in Matthew 3?
Well, Lexicon like that of BDB or the concordance like that of Strongs gives different meaning or even shades of meaning of a word. But the interpretation depends on the text and its context. Now let us read the text like this: “And the purpose was made flesh.” And there are those who would give meaning to it like this: “The plan and purpose of God is materialized”. But the text is in fact telling how about real incarnation-Jesus as man! It is not at all just a philosophical thinking. If becoming flesh doesn’t mean becoming man, how would you say that Jesus is man?
There is comparison given to understand who Jesus is: God revealing God. When we talk of the word, we also know that there is a thought preceeded to it. Thought is the God invisible, the word is the God visible. The son of God, the God-kind reveals the Father whom no man has ever seen.
As for I AM: Call it a title if you like. But whose title is it in the Old Testament? Let me say it: Yahweh! And in New Testament that title is used by Jesus for himself.
Yes, the wise men did bring gifts to the newly born king of the Jews, but the simple shepherd had a higher revelation than the knowledge the wise men had. At the command of God, the angels came and sang praises to God and proclaimed, even before baptism or resurrection of Jesus, the one born in Bethlehem is Christ the Lord! Even before resurrection Jesus was God as was demonstrated by his transfiguration! The disciples came to know who their Lord was!
The Arian controversy is still alive, but the Bible has to say differently! I have many things to say on this but with this post I conclude.

By Jayant Christian (wrote 287 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/29/2010 23:04 pm

I Tim 2:5 is showing that Jesus is not Yahweh and that he is a man.John 17:5 The glory which Jesus had with Yahweh–present to Yahwehs mind as his purpose.Brown, Driver and Briggs lexicon Clarendon press,1968,p 768,86 Romans 8″28-30 we as christians have this glory. John 8:58 verse 53 Are you greater than our father Abraham is the question yes I am before him in greatness is context of this verse not the capitolization of the I AM like in John 1:1 The word was with God or the WORD was with God. Remember in exodus the I AM that I AM is a statement not a name, his name is Yahweh.If you understand the monotheistic old testament Is.44 I alone who else is there beside me” no Jesus yet ten thousand personal pronouns when you get to the greek new testament copied trinitarians you won’t stumble as easy on the verse here and there that imply preexistance. Like I saw satan fall like lighting in luke 10:18 It doesn’t say when. again read the context of the previous verses.Phil 2:6-7 some say emptied himself the margin says privilges he was born king of the jews thats why the wise men brought him gifts and paid hommage. Mark

By Mark (wrote 124 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/29/2010 00:26 am

I may add further:

Jesus prayed to His Father, “And now, Father, glorifiy me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began” ( John 17:5)Jesus also therefore told the Jews, “Before Abraham was, I am.” Jesus pre-existed eternally. So although Matthew and Luke starts their gospels with the details of the birth of Jesus, telling about the Incarnation, John starts Jesus’ story far ahead in the past eternity,even when nothing was created, for all things were created by Jesus the Word of God. And the Word was God. What God was the Word was. And if the Word is God, He is uncreated. The word begotten used for Jesus as the Son of God shows His nature, that he is God-kind.(John 1:1-17) It points to his preeminance as the creator of all, both the visible and invisible.(Colosians 1:15-20). We can know God from ONLY and All that the Bible says. Just a few favorite verses will not do. We do so at our risk.

By Jayant Christian (wrote 287 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/28/2010 23:36 pm

We have also to take into consideration Titus 2:13 “appearing of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ” alongwith 1 Timothy 2:5. What about John 12:41 read with Isaiah 6?

By Jayant Christian (wrote 287 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/26/2010 22:25 pm

Matt.1:18 The genesis of Jesus Luke 1:35 the begetting the begining of Jesus the messiah, Prophecied by the father thru out the old testament. Heb 1:1-5 who in different ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by his son. Meet the real Jesus the created son of the one God and father of all.I Tim 2:5
Thank you Mark

By Mark (wrote 124 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/26/2010 19:56 pm

Mark seems to convey that we should read the text of Hebrew 1;5 as, “For which of the OTHER angles did he ever call son.”-thus including Jesus as os one of the angels.Anyone would agree that the insertion or reading the word OTHER like this is an unwarranted addition and hense unwarranted interpretation.Now please also read the preecding post #3.

By Jayant Christian (wrote 287 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/24/2010 23:26 pm

Mark seems to convey that Jesus is after all one of the angels on the basis of the text “For which of the angels did he ever call a son?” (Hebrew 1:5)

The answer to the the question, as discussed in the first chapter of Hebrew, is “To none of the angels He ever called son.” or “He never called any of the angels a son.”This excludes Jesus from being one of the angels.It is at our risk that we may put the answer like, “For of the angels He he never called son to any angel including Jesus.” Had God never called any of the angels son including Jesus,why should He call Jesus, if he too is an angel, His son now?

Jesus was not one of the created angels for He is God (Heb.1:9) and He cannot be God if created. Jesus was made lower than angels for a little while (Heb.2:9). This points to the fact that He was above all angels. Even in His lower state, the angels were commanded to worship Jesus (Heb. 1:60, for he was and is God. He is restored to His superior state and enthroned in heaven. All the angels worship Him there (Revelation 4)So Jesus is not of the class of the created angelic beings. Melchizedek gives but a faint representation of Jesus the son of God. Melchizedek is,as goes the record of geneology or life history, without begining or end, like the son of God, who really is without begining or end.(Heb.7:3) He is eternal, from everlasting to everlasting. Why try to lower down the One whom God has exalted? The angels are the mininstering spirits,(Heb.1:14) where the Lord Jesus Christ is the supreme One mininstered unto in Heaven.

By Jayant Christian (wrote 287 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/24/2010 23:19 pm

Heb 1:5 No one seems to answer the question that is most odvious which is, Was Jesus ever an angel ” for to which of the angels did he ever call son. Does anybody disagree? Mark

By Mark (wrote 124 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 4/23/2010 18:22 pm

1) Angel= “mal’ak” is the Hebrew word & “angelos” is the Greek word.The meaning of the word is “messenger.”
2)Angel is supernatural created being.Angels are created to serve God.They are sent to deliver the message of God or to carry out the commands of God.They do not marry.They are not given in marriage.Matthew 22:30.An angel is a little higher in dignity than man.Psalm 8;Hebrews 2.
3)Angels are called “the sons of God” in Job 1:6 & 38:7.(Job is a poetical book.)Angels are not begotten sons.They are not equal to the “only begotten son.”(John3:16).The “Son of God” is identified with God.He is the deity.
Read Gal.4:4.
4)We can find the ministry of angels in the life of Christ.
Announcement of His birth.-Matthew 1:20;Luke 1:31.
Announcement of the birth of John the Baptist,His forerunner.-Luke 1:13.
Announcement of the Good tidings of His birth to the shepherds.-Luke 2:10.
Ministering of the angels after he overcame the temptations in the wilderness. -Matthew 4;11;Mark 1:13.
Ministering of the angels at Gethsemane. -Luke 22:43.
Announcement of the Good tidings of His resurrection. -Matthew 28:2;Mark 16:5;Luke 24:4;John20:12.
Telling of God’s message at His ascension-Acts 1:10.
5)”..this day I have begotten thee.”-This day may specifically refer to the day on which Jesus ascended into the heaven & sat at the right hand of God.Read Acts 13:33,34.
6)1 Chronicles 17:13 is a parallel verse of 2 Samuel 7:14.The promise of God to David that his dynasty would last forever has been fulfilled in Jesus Christ.Read Luke 1:31-33.
7)The enthronement of Jesus Christ at the right hand of God gave Him higher status & rank than the angels & made Him superior to them.

By Alex (wrote 499 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 11/20/2008 16:41 pm

1)In the Epistle of Hebrews there are more than 25 quotations of the O.T.& nearly 70 allusions of other O.T. passages.In Hebrews Chapter 1,the writer used 7 O.T. quotations (5 of them from the Psalms) to prove that Jesus Christ is superior as Son of God.In Heb.1:5,Psalm 2:7 & 2 Sam.7:14 are used.
2)When a new King of Judah of the lineage of David was crowned at Jerusalem,
he was adopted as the son of God in a public ceremony & was made to act as God’s representative to rule the kingdom.The words of Psalm 2:7 had been used during that occasion.Psalm 2 is founded on 2 Sam.7.
3) The words of Psalm 2:7 find its fulfillment in Jesus Christ as He is both
the Son of David & the Son of God.
4)The angel told Mary (before the birth of Jesus) that her son would be
called the Son of God & would reign the house of Jacob forever.Luke 1:30-35.
5)At the time of the baptism of Jesus Christ,a voice from heaven said,”This is My Beloved Son,in whom I am well pleased.” Read Matt.3:17;Mark 1:11;Luke 3:22.
6)When the disciples Peter,James & John were with Jesus Christ on the Mount of transfiguration,a voice from the cloud said,”This is My Beloved Son,in whom I am well pleased;hear ye Him.”The Apostles had been reassured that Jesus was the Messiah anticipated by them.
7)In Acts 13:33,34,we find that Paul has used the quotation of Psalm 2:7 to refer the resurrection of Jesus Christ.The resurrection of Jesus Christ and the enthronement at the right hand of God confirmed the fulfillment of the prophecies in the O.T.regarding the rule of the Messiah.

By Alex (wrote 499 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 11/20/2008 03:10 am