John 8: 7 Commentary

Tiuche (Post #9): Thank you for sharing your views.

By Roland G (wrote 1413 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 2/1/2012 14:12 pm

Roland G. Monogamous society is not at fault what is at fault is the SHOULD BE MONOGAMY FOR ALL MEN & THE blind PREACHERS & THE BLIND FOLLOWERS of that doctrine. Please note that there is a difference between the Monogamy Doctrine and the false doctrine of SHOULD BE MONOGAMY FOR ALL MEN! If you cannot distinguish between the too you should also be blamed for helping create pedophiles!

By TIUCHE (wrote 2749 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 2/1/2012 10:44 am

Tiuche (Post #7): Thank you for sharing your views. Monogamous societies can never be blamed for making pedophiles of men. All crime, like sin, involves a personal choice.

By Roland G (wrote 2 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/31/2012 16:46 pm

Roland G, (Post #6):
You said: I do not “judge” you for I do not accuse you of any sin. Only God is qualified to judge you for sin.

My comment: Did I say you were judging me? What i said in post #5 was:”Your judgement is a bit out of sync with righteous judgement!You are putting words in my mouth which i did not say at all!

I was not saying that you were judging me…what i was saying was that your judgement REGARDING WHAT I POSTED was out of sync with Righteous Judgement. I cannot understand how you are reading words into what i say that is not there! Check your reading comprehension!

You said: In most States “rape” is not recognized between a husband and a wife.

My comment: What is that to me if the states say this and that? We are here for our state-the Kingdom of God and its Laws. We rather obey God than men…you are fun of looking up on men as your authority-that would be okay if what they state are in sync with God’s Word but if not we rather obey God than them!

You said: In your story, “Sick Societies” you blame society for punishing a pedophile for raping his stepdaughter who had just reached puberty. You suggested that if society was polygamous the stepfather could have married her. That way if he raped her there would be no punishment. After all, they are married.

My comment: In a way you might be right that I am indeed blaming society…but not for punishing the pedophile (IF HE WAS ONE) but rather I am blaming them for MAKING A PEDOPHILE OF THE MAN! Why or how did they made pedophiles of men, you researched that! If you would not believe me, i don’t anymore care! You think your authorities can see either those of the civil or religious ones you looked up to-so follow them-they will lead you into the WAY! Follow them they are Godly men and righteous officials and they know their stuff-so follow them Roland G.

By TIUCHE (wrote 2749 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/31/2012 13:20 pm

Tiuche (Post #5): I do not “judge” you for I do not accuse you of any sin. Only God is qualified to judge you for sin.

In most States “rape” is not recognized between a husband and a wife. In your story, “Sick Societies” you blame society for punishing a pedophile for raping his stepdaughter who had just reached puberty. You suggested that if society was polygamous the stepfather could have married her. That way if he raped her there would be no punishment. After all, they are married.

By Roland G (wrote 2 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/31/2012 11:46 am

Roland G. Isn’t it ironic that you who think the Law of God had been done away and refuse to teach it…now endorses the LETTER OF THE LAW AS A PUNISHMENT?

Rape is rape-forcible sex is bad…and that is different from the story I told. You judge on the surface and you read superficially…not even going deeper to really appreciate the true story so you can see! You say you can see so you judge unrighteously!

So you read my blog? Well that is good….and i did not say that punishing a pedophile is sick-read well and understand well! Your judgement is a bit out of sync with righteous judgement!You are putting words in my mouth which i did not say at all!

By TIUCHE (wrote 2749 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/31/2012 09:31 am

Tiuche (Post #3): “I do not say that HEINOUS CRIME should not be given the death penalty…”

In your view a pedophile who rapes an underaged girl is not a heinous crime. So, I am not sure what you consider “HEINOUS.”

You posted a story under Genesis 49:6, commentary #2, of a pedophile. A stepfather raped his stepdaughter who had just reached puberty. The stepfather got the death penalty as “a righteous penalty for such a HEINOUS CRIME….”

You said this [lust]thirsty pedophile received the death penalty because society is out of sync with the “true Biblical Model of Marriage.” But, the true Biblical Model of Marriage in your view is a polygamous society in which pedophiles can have forcible sex with an abundance of “wells.”

You concluded that punishing the stepfather was a tragedy. You did not seem at all bothered that the under-aged girl was raped or that the pedophile violated her free-will. You blame society for punishing the pedophile. In fact, you call society “sick.”

You also posted the story on your blog page under “Sick Societies” to tell the whole world society is sick for punishing pedophiles who are not sick:
http://www.blogger.com/profile/06693674259878463167

By Roland G (wrote 1413 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/31/2012 05:08 am

Roland G. We are talking on a different level. You are superficial.You donot READ WELL! What did I say on post#1:

“I donot say that HEINOUS CRIME should not be given the death penalty..what I am driving at is this>”

You ought to read well Roland if not I am leaving you alone!

By TIUCHE (wrote 2749 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/31/2012 04:03 am

Tiuche (Post #1): No society can survive without punishing crime. A pedophile who rapes a child cannot assert John 8:7 as a defense. Any Criminal Judge and jury would find such a defense laughable. It might even make Anderson Cooper’s RidicuList.

By Roland G (wrote 1413 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/31/2012 03:58 am

A BABY CASTING THE FIRST STONE ON HIS BROTHER’S HEAD

I remembered it well, we were children playing in the backyard. We were playing marbles. Excited of semi-hiding our marbles on stones wide and semi-flat, just enough to show our marbles. For this was the rule, when you hide your marble, it should not be completely hidden-so an opponent will have the opportunity to hit it with his own marble.

We have a nice time playing marbles, losing some and seeing some…in the grasses, shallow canals. Giggling we would play everyday after school from 4 p.m. till 6 p.m.

And one time when there were three of us, two brothers and me. The younger brother became angry with his elder brother for hitting and breaking his favorite marble. So the younger one without even thinking took a big flat stone and hammered it to the head of is brother. And I saw how the so much blood spurted out from the head of my friend. And their mother and sisters were suddenly on the scene shouting and putting a towel on the head of my injured friend. And as I remained outside their home, I could hear the crying of the little brother from the BIG SPANKING he had for his BABY THINKING & SERIOUS ERROR!

Blood for a marble? Death for sins? While Jesus came to bring us life and saves us from the penalty of our transgression of His Laws-giving us unmerited pardon, I still cannot understand why those who profess belief in Jesus as the way, the truth and the life. could still think of CASTING THE FIRST STONE ON SINNERS! Professing Christians or babes in the faith who insist the Law had been done away are the very ones who are JUDGEMENTAL AND CONDEMNING toward fellows who committed crimes. I donot say that HEINOUS CRIME should not be given the death penalty..what I am driving at is this>

Death for a favorite marble? Death for a 15 minutes or 20 minutes of sexual pleasures? yes and no! Yes if the crime is indeed heinous on sexual sins-such as raping and killing men, women and children. But raping and not killing, I say wait a minute…look at what really is the crime of that fellow. Some are very quick to judge especially those who insist the LAW HAD BEEN DONE AWAY! What irony and comic thinking! In their muddled thinking they do not even know that they themselves are worthy of death and now would met out the DEATH PENALTY for a crime they percieved as HEINOUS! Forgetting Jesus warning THAT those professing beliefs in Him defer AND refrain from condemnation of sinners:

Luke 6:37 Do not judge others, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn others, or it will all come back against you. Forgive others, and you will be forgiven.

John 7:24 Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.

And exacting blood for a marble?Blood for a crime of sexual pleasure? Take care that you will not be exacted with the measure you used! If I were you I will make sure of all things especially on what sexual liberties God allows by reviewing the LAWS & THE PROPHET-the foundation of the New Agreement!

Matthew 7:2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judge …
The standard you use in judging is the standard by which you will be judged. … you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you

By TIUCHE (wrote 2749 Bible Commentaries - permalink to this Commentary)
Posted on: 1/31/2012 00:22 am