Comments for Verse by Verse Bible Commentary on every Bible Passage http://www.vbvbc.org Give YOUR personal Bible Commentary on every single Bible Verse! Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:16:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 Comment on Jude 1: 11 by Taft http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/jude1-11#comment-13837 Taft Fri, 10 Feb 2012 01:23:25 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/jude1-11#comment-13837 Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. The scripture has many different blessings to share of past experiences of people influenced by God’s divine hand. The personal struggles of these men aid all who will hear in how to better avoid selfish tendencies of the flesh; for people developing a closer relationship with God. All though all people struggled on an individual level; one falls to family issues, another the hurdle of business choices, and the last a stumbling block of community/social influence. Having the knowledge of God must lead all to a correct relationship defined by the Creator between God and man, if one desires victory to be attained through trusting and obeying God’s plan. Often times the carnal mind through the deceptions of Satan seeks to have man look up to other men in great esteem while diminishing the glory of the Lord by treating him as an equal. Cain A warning is placed as an example in Cain’s story to all who would try and please God by their own works against the prescribed plan of God. Since Cain was the first born and he was to have the privilege “unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.” (Genesis 4:7). Cain was welcomed into the world with amazement like most parents do to their children, with glory given to God for the precious gift of life (Genesis 4:1). Adam and Eve’s children were only one generation removed from the good that the Creator had first given humanity in the garden. After presenting sacrifices to God, Cain was very angry to see his brothers offering accepted by the Lord and his rejected. God interjected with Cain to have him see that he had danger of further sin entering into his life if he did not confess and forsake the evil seeds of stubbornness against what he knew God had asked. Cain continued to be impressed by God’s encouragement and correction to change his behavior, but instead of confessing and forsaking his past transgressions of disobedience and attuning his behavior to God’s will, he neglected to act on the conviction and cherished his own understanding instead (Genesis 4:6-7). Cain could have learned from God’s lesson of tending his field, that in order to keep a successful crop he had to weed out the various thorns and thistles that grew in opposition (Genesis 3:17-18). After experiencing the illuminating conviction of God’s word in his heart instead of weeding out the evil seeds of sinful disobedience Cain allowed them to grow and choke out the good seeds planted by God through the positive influence of his brother Abel. Seeking to silence God’s continuing witness for positive growth in his life, Cain’s self conviction was reflected as hatred to his brother that when cultivated and allowed to grow brought him to slay his brother in the field (1st John 3:12). His love of darkness crowded out any light that sought to benefit him until he lashed out at that light, shielding himself from the influence (John 3:19-21). Even when faced with the horrible situation of killing his brother Cain could only think of self preservation, void of any repentance to his actions and only regret for the consequences (Genesis 4:13). Cain through neglect, pride, and self sufficiency was now a “fugitive and a vagabond” (Genesis 4:14) who forsook his upbringing in the Lord and made himself an outsider to his family (Genesis 4:25). When a field planted with good intentions is left to grow over unkept without the cooperative effort of man and God’s guidance, all passers by will still focus more on the end result then the original intent (Luke 14:28-30, 1st Corinthians 3:11-13). Balaam The children of Israel when voyaging to the Promised Land camped in the land of Moab. The Moabites and their king afraid of the many people in Israel’s camp since hearing the victories in battle against the Amorites and Og king of Bashan (Numbers 21:32-35 & 22:4), sought protection from a hired hand to curse the camps of Israel (Numbers 22:5-6). When offered “rewards of divination” to curse Israel Balaam sought council from the Lord and when he received it did not align himself with the instructions but subtly sought to twist the communications of the Lord to his financial favor. God spoke to Balaam “Thou shalt not go with them; thou shalt not curse the people: for they are blessed” (Numbers 22:12) and instead of numbering his desires with that of the Lord’s Balaam told the Moabites “Get you into your land: for the LORD refuseth to give me leave to go with you” (Numbers 22:13). This would set the tone for the double minded ways of Balaam to continue to be tempted to seek worldly. The temptation was set to higher stakes as Balaam was now tempted to curse those blessed by the Lord for “Let nothing, I pray thee, hinder thee from coming unto me: For I will promote thee unto very great honour, and I will do whatsoever thou sayest unto me: come therefore, I pray thee, curse me this people.” (Numbers 22:16-17). Instead of standing on what the Lord had proclaimed he sought God as a child who would petition their parent for a request about something that already had been given a clear answer to. Another clear answer from the Lord “If the men come to call thee, rise up, and go with them; but yet the word which I shall say unto thee, that shalt thou do.” (Numbers 22:20) in which Balaam took it upon himself to take one bolder step in rebellion against God, in that without being beckoned Balaam saddled his ass and went with them against the Lord’s command. Balaam blinded by the love of money gained through unrighteousness brutishly barreled down the wrong path against the will of the Lord and toward the angel in his path. When met with the obstacle of his donkey hindering the duplicity of his motives, Balaam physically lashed out at the proven loyal beast, determined still bolder to run into sin (Numbers 22:27). The simplicity of the ass’ loyalty delivered Balaam from the sword and displayed the merciful and longsuffering power of the Lord. God permitted the beast to speak words of reason to his master and then allowed Balaam to see the fait that would have befallen him if he continued on the path of disobedience. Thankful for a time and sober to the situation at hand Balaam continued to follow the instruction of the Lord to proclaim His message that “thou shalt not curse the people: for they are blessed”. After parting company we see that Balaam had not allowed God to cleanse him of his evil ways of covetousness in loving the wages of unrighteousness (2nd Peter 2:15). Coveting the treasure withheld him Balaam sought to teach the king of Moab that if he could only get the Israelites to sin and displease God then His protection would be lifted. This rebellion lead to the death of many by the stumbling block intentionally placed to tempt God’s chosen to act contrary to the will of God (Revelations 2:14, Numbers 31:8). Stubbornness not to see what the Lord would bless us with in giving or withholding can lead us farther from the Lord’s will. Presumption places a divide between the believer and God, trying to reverse the role to force God’s hand. These perverse measures warp men’s minds into thinking they have more power and control outside of the Lord, leading them to believe that compromise is alright in certain circumstances and that once goals are acquired they will realign with God’s true will. Such is true in the case of Judas, that he sought to gain wealth and power at the hand of the Lord contrary to God’s will (John 12:4-6). Judas even thought to force God’s hand to increase the unquenchable fire of lust that continued to burn once indulged until it consumed everything about him (Matthew 27:3-5). A journey cut short. It is interesting to see the contrast between the lessons we can learn from the children of Israel being led by the hand of the Lord out from the slavery of Egypt. The dual application can be applied to an individual who has been set free from the bondage of sin as they set out in their journey toward God (promise land) and away from the old life of sin (spiritual Egypt). When Balaam sought the riches the world had to offer against the spoken Word of the Lord in his life he set himself on a path back into bondage. The merciful and longsuffering nature of the Lord continued to strive with Balaam, but stubborn disobedience to increase in riches against God’s flock made him and his desires an outsider to the camp of the Creator and ultimately to an open plot against God. Korah Korah was found to be at the forefront of the rebels, seeking to influence men “famous in the congregation, men of renown” (Numbers 16:2) to more effectively spread his lies and push hidden agendas. When enough people sympathized with the ploy Korah gathered everyone to make the mobs intensions known to Moses and Aaron. The heart of the movement was then made known that Moses and Aaron were perceived as taking to much upon themselves as leaders that sought to exalt themselves in positions that Korah thought he could do better. “Ye take too much upon you”(Numbers 16:3) The current rebels sought to undermined the massager’s of the Lord and if they had their way assuming the bigger responsibilities to make things go smoother, failing to see God’s purpose in previous situations. “seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them:”(Numbers 16:3) spoken to accuse Moses and Aaron that the previous messages to turn from evil ways and repent were needless accusations against a people that are self proclaimed holy. “wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?”(Numbers 16:3) struck to the heart of the movement, the rebellious union sought to erect new management with promises of better times to come. Discontentment with what God had given some for responsibility (Numbers 16:8-10) brought open rebellion as covetous self centered acts overthrew God’s rule in individual hearts, they now sought to blindly overthrow God’s decree in the community to their own selfish benefits. Moses reminds the group that they are providing a valuable service and proposes to the mob that they are in fact guilty of the same thing they have accused Moses and Aaron of “ye take too much upon you, ye sons of Levi.” (Numbers 16:7). When a test was set before the people that only God could perform the rebellious individuals were singled out and destroyed for open rebellion against God and his followers (Numbers 16:27-33). Despite God’s delivering hand with many miracles wrought in the favor of the children of Israel, still people were blinded by sinful selfish motives void of God’s purpose. Those in the crowd of Israel who were led into deception continued even after seeing the destruction of Korah to rebel against God and his servants because they didn’t want to face the light of the truth that would lead them to reprove their evil deeds (Numbers 16:41, John 3:20, Job 24:13, Proverbs 15:12). This is a shadow and replica of evil rebellion that ensued from Satan’s coveting of power not given him and spreading lies and accusations to cause division for his own self centered gain (Revelation 12:7-10, Isaiah 14:12-14). This prideful attitude wars against the humble and meek virtues that a servant of God needs to correctly execute His judgments. We are to respect those in authority for all has been placed by God’s hand and can be overthrown when he sees fit (Luke 19:27, Proverbs 17:11, Matthew 22:21). Jude 1:11 Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.

The scripture has many different blessings to share of past experiences of people influenced by God’s divine hand. The personal struggles of these men aid all who will hear in how to better avoid selfish tendencies of the flesh; for people developing a closer relationship with God. All though all people struggled on an individual level; one falls to family issues, another the hurdle of business choices, and the last a stumbling block of community/social influence. Having the knowledge of God must lead all to a correct relationship defined by the Creator between God and man, if one desires victory to be attained through trusting and obeying God’s plan. Often times the carnal mind through the deceptions of Satan seeks to have man look up to other men in great esteem while diminishing the glory of the Lord by treating him as an equal.

Cain

A warning is placed as an example in Cain’s story to all who would try and please God by their own works against the prescribed plan of God. Since Cain was the first born and he was to have the privilege “unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.” (Genesis 4:7). Cain was welcomed into the world with amazement like most parents do to their children, with glory given to God for the precious gift of life (Genesis 4:1). Adam and Eve’s children were only one generation removed from the good that the Creator had first given humanity in the garden. After presenting sacrifices to God, Cain was very angry to see his brothers offering accepted by the Lord and his rejected. God interjected with Cain to have him see that he had danger of further sin entering into his life if he did not confess and forsake the evil seeds of stubbornness against what he knew God had asked. Cain continued to be impressed by God’s encouragement and correction to change his behavior, but instead of confessing and forsaking his past transgressions of disobedience and attuning his behavior to God’s will, he neglected to act on the conviction and cherished his own understanding instead (Genesis 4:6-7). Cain could have learned from God’s lesson of tending his field, that in order to keep a successful crop he had to weed out the various thorns and thistles that grew in opposition (Genesis 3:17-18). After experiencing the illuminating conviction of God’s word in his heart instead of weeding out the evil seeds of sinful disobedience Cain allowed them to grow and choke out the good seeds planted by God through the positive influence of his brother Abel. Seeking to silence God’s continuing witness for positive growth in his life, Cain’s self conviction was reflected as hatred to his brother that when cultivated and allowed to grow brought him to slay his brother in the field (1st John 3:12). His love of darkness crowded out any light that sought to benefit him until he lashed out at that light, shielding himself from the influence (John 3:19-21). Even when faced with the horrible situation of killing his brother Cain could only think of self preservation, void of any repentance to his actions and only regret for the consequences (Genesis 4:13). Cain through neglect, pride, and self sufficiency was now a “fugitive and a vagabond” (Genesis 4:14) who forsook his upbringing in the Lord and made himself an outsider to his family (Genesis 4:25).

When a field planted with good intentions is left to grow over unkept without the cooperative effort of man and God’s guidance, all passers by will still focus more on the end result then the original intent (Luke 14:28-30, 1st Corinthians 3:11-13).

Balaam

The children of Israel when voyaging to the Promised Land camped in the land of Moab. The Moabites and their king afraid of the many people in Israel’s camp since hearing the victories in battle against the Amorites and Og king of Bashan (Numbers 21:32-35 & 22:4), sought protection from a hired hand to curse the camps of Israel (Numbers 22:5-6). When offered “rewards of divination” to curse Israel Balaam sought council from the Lord and when he received it did not align himself with the instructions but subtly sought to twist the communications of the Lord to his financial favor. God spoke to Balaam “Thou shalt not go with them; thou shalt not curse the people: for they are blessed” (Numbers 22:12) and instead of numbering his desires with that of the Lord’s Balaam told the Moabites “Get you into your land: for the LORD refuseth to give me leave to go with you” (Numbers 22:13). This would set the tone for the double minded ways of Balaam to continue to be tempted to seek worldly. The temptation was set to higher stakes as Balaam was now tempted to curse those blessed by the Lord for “Let nothing, I pray thee, hinder thee from coming unto me: For I will promote thee unto very great honour, and I will do whatsoever thou sayest unto me: come therefore, I pray thee, curse me this people.” (Numbers 22:16-17).

Instead of standing on what the Lord had proclaimed he sought God as a child who would petition their parent for a request about something that already had been given a clear answer to. Another clear answer from the Lord “If the men come to call thee, rise up, and go with them; but yet the word which I shall say unto thee, that shalt thou do.” (Numbers 22:20) in which Balaam took it upon himself to take one bolder step in rebellion against God, in that without being beckoned Balaam saddled his ass and went with them against the Lord’s command. Balaam blinded by the love of money gained through unrighteousness brutishly barreled down the wrong path against the will of the Lord and toward the angel in his path. When met with the obstacle of his donkey hindering the duplicity of his motives, Balaam physically lashed out at the proven loyal beast, determined still bolder to run into sin (Numbers 22:27). The simplicity of the ass’ loyalty delivered Balaam from the sword and displayed the merciful and longsuffering power of the Lord. God permitted the beast to speak words of reason to his master and then allowed Balaam to see the fait that would have befallen him if he continued on the path of disobedience. Thankful for a time and sober to the situation at hand Balaam continued to follow the instruction of the Lord to proclaim His message that “thou shalt not curse the people: for they are blessed”.

After parting company we see that Balaam had not allowed God to cleanse him of his evil ways of covetousness in loving the wages of unrighteousness (2nd Peter 2:15). Coveting the treasure withheld him Balaam sought to teach the king of Moab that if he could only get the Israelites to sin and displease God then His protection would be lifted. This rebellion lead to the death of many by the stumbling block intentionally placed to tempt God’s chosen to act contrary to the will of God (Revelations 2:14, Numbers 31:8). Stubbornness not to see what the Lord would bless us with in giving or withholding can lead us farther from the Lord’s will. Presumption places a divide between the believer and God, trying to reverse the role to force God’s hand. These perverse measures warp men’s minds into thinking they have more power and control outside of the Lord, leading them to believe that compromise is alright in certain circumstances and that once goals are acquired they will realign with God’s true will. Such is true in the case of Judas, that he sought to gain wealth and power at the hand of the Lord contrary to God’s will (John 12:4-6). Judas even thought to force God’s hand to increase the unquenchable fire of lust that continued to burn once indulged until it consumed everything about him (Matthew 27:3-5).

A journey cut short. It is interesting to see the contrast between the lessons we can learn from the children of Israel being led by the hand of the Lord out from the slavery of Egypt. The dual application can be applied to an individual who has been set free from the bondage of sin as they set out in their journey toward God (promise land) and away from the old life of sin (spiritual Egypt). When Balaam sought the riches the world had to offer against the spoken Word of the Lord in his life he set himself on a path back into bondage. The merciful and longsuffering nature of the Lord continued to strive with Balaam, but stubborn disobedience to increase in riches against God’s flock made him and his desires an outsider to the camp of the Creator and ultimately to an open plot against God.

Korah

Korah was found to be at the forefront of the rebels, seeking to influence men “famous in the congregation, men of renown” (Numbers 16:2) to more effectively spread his lies and push hidden agendas. When enough people sympathized with the ploy Korah gathered everyone to make the mobs intensions known to Moses and Aaron. The heart of the movement was then made known that Moses and Aaron were perceived as taking to much upon themselves as leaders that sought to exalt themselves in positions that Korah thought he could do better. “Ye take too much upon you”(Numbers 16:3) The current rebels sought to undermined the massager’s of the Lord and if they had their way assuming the bigger responsibilities to make things go smoother, failing to see God’s purpose in previous situations. “seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them:”(Numbers 16:3) spoken to accuse Moses and Aaron that the previous messages to turn from evil ways and repent were needless accusations against a people that are self proclaimed holy. “wherefore then lift ye up yourselves above the congregation of the LORD?”(Numbers 16:3) struck to the heart of the movement, the rebellious union sought to erect new management with promises of better times to come. Discontentment with what God had given some for responsibility (Numbers 16:8-10) brought open rebellion as covetous self centered acts overthrew God’s rule in individual hearts, they now sought to blindly overthrow God’s decree in the community to their own selfish benefits. Moses reminds the group that they are providing a valuable service and proposes to the mob that they are in fact guilty of the same thing they have accused Moses and Aaron of “ye take too much upon you, ye sons of Levi.” (Numbers 16:7). When a test was set before the people that only God could perform the rebellious individuals were singled out and destroyed for open rebellion against God and his followers (Numbers 16:27-33). Despite God’s delivering hand with many miracles wrought in the favor of the children of Israel, still people were blinded by sinful selfish motives void of God’s purpose. Those in the crowd of Israel who were led into deception continued even after seeing the destruction of Korah to rebel against God and his servants because they didn’t want to face the light of the truth that would lead them to reprove their evil deeds (Numbers 16:41, John 3:20, Job 24:13, Proverbs 15:12).

This is a shadow and replica of evil rebellion that ensued from Satan’s coveting of power not given him and spreading lies and accusations to cause division for his own self centered gain (Revelation 12:7-10, Isaiah 14:12-14). This prideful attitude wars against the humble and meek virtues that a servant of God needs to correctly execute His judgments. We are to respect those in authority for all has been placed by God’s hand and can be overthrown when he sees fit (Luke 19:27, Proverbs 17:11, Matthew 22:21).

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Comment on Galatians 5: 22 by TSnow http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13836 TSnow Thu, 09 Feb 2012 23:54:06 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13836 Post #9, TIUCHE: Thanks again. "Filled with the Holy Spirit" ... let's define, at this point, the role of the word 'filled' here. I would suggest this word 'filled' refers to our words and actions being "influenced by" the Holy Spirit. Thus, if we "grieve" Him [the Spirit], we are not, at that moment, Spirit filled. Rather, speaking and/or acting from the old self. Not sure why the New Covenant is mentioned here. Perhaps, because God speaks of a "new spirit"? Christians benefit from this Covenant in receiving forgiveness and the reception of the Holy Spirit. Outside of that, it is clear this prophecy is future and regards Israel. You referred to the Holy Spirit as an "it." Perhaps this was/is a typo? But He [the Spirit] is a Person with all the attributes of personhood. T. Post #9, TIUCHE: Thanks again. “Filled with the Holy Spirit” … let’s define, at this point, the role of the word ‘filled’ here. I would suggest this word ‘filled’ refers to our words and actions being “influenced by” the Holy Spirit. Thus, if we “grieve” Him [the Spirit], we are not, at that moment, Spirit filled. Rather, speaking and/or acting from the old self.
Not sure why the New Covenant is mentioned here. Perhaps, because God speaks of a “new spirit”?
Christians benefit from this Covenant in receiving forgiveness and the reception of the Holy Spirit. Outside of that, it is clear this prophecy is future and regards Israel.
You referred to the Holy Spirit as an “it.” Perhaps this was/is a typo? But He [the Spirit] is a Person with all the attributes of personhood. T.

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Comment on Revelation 18: 18 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/revelation18-18#comment-13835 TIUCHE Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:47:48 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/revelation18-18#comment-13835 CRISIS+ GATHERING=OPPORTUNITY Thus did Billi P.S. Lim wrote n his book "Dare to fail (From KSE to KBE)...he discovered the principle while thinking on the Chinese word "OPPORTUNITY"...he saw that the word was derived from two Chinese words-"CRISIS" and 'GATHERING OR MEETING". Well this principles he taught were quite good and useful...the only bad thing is this principle are being used by the OLIGARCHIES IN CONCERT WITH THE ILLUMINATIS- and they are creating CRISIS UPON CRISIS AND LETTING THIS CONVERGE INTO A BIG MEETING...to make the poor poorer and buy their properties at a very low price to enrich themselves. Look at what happened to the Asian Boom which became a crisis supposedly planned by George Soros and his likes (and they were Jews in concert with the mother church and other oligarchies); And again the 911 hit of the Twin Towers in New York where in the US President Bush himself was accused of master minding such crisis together with the Illuminati and other oligarchies with Rockefeller, Rothschild and etc.(again Rockefeller & Rothschild were Jews). They create crisis to lower the prices of stocks and buy them...then sell it at a higher price...then create a crisis again...to enrich themselves-which the Mormon calls "SECRET COMBINATION OF EVIL MEN". The Illuminatis who are Satan worshipper together with these errant Jewish oligarchies are giving the Jews a bad name. Are they preparing them for such a future in the which all nation would hate the Jews? Remember that it was the Rothschild that help set-up the state of Israel in 1948. And it was the Rothschild and the grandfather of President Bush that supported Hitler....what mystery! Won't believe me- google these things and you will see! CRISIS+ GATHERING=OPPORTUNITY

Thus did Billi P.S. Lim wrote n his book “Dare to fail (From KSE to KBE)…he discovered the principle while thinking on the Chinese word “OPPORTUNITY”…he saw that the word was derived from two Chinese words-”CRISIS” and ‘GATHERING OR MEETING”.

Well this principles he taught were quite good and useful…the only bad thing is this principle are being used by the OLIGARCHIES IN CONCERT WITH THE ILLUMINATIS- and they are creating CRISIS UPON CRISIS AND LETTING THIS CONVERGE INTO A BIG MEETING…to make the poor poorer and buy their properties at a very low price to enrich themselves.

Look at what happened to the Asian Boom which became a crisis supposedly planned by George Soros and his likes (and they were Jews in concert with the mother church and other oligarchies);

And again the 911 hit of the Twin Towers in New York where in the US President Bush himself was accused of master minding such crisis together with the Illuminati and other oligarchies with Rockefeller, Rothschild and etc.(again Rockefeller & Rothschild were Jews).

They create crisis to lower the prices of stocks and buy them…then sell it at a higher price…then create a crisis again…to enrich themselves-which the Mormon calls “SECRET COMBINATION OF EVIL MEN”.

The Illuminatis who are Satan worshipper together with these errant Jewish oligarchies are giving the Jews a bad name. Are they preparing them for such a future in the which all nation would hate the Jews? Remember that it was the Rothschild that help set-up the state of Israel in 1948. And it was the Rothschild and the grandfather of President Bush that supported Hitler….what mystery! Won’t believe me- google these things and you will see!

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Comment on Revelation 18: 4 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/revelation18-4#comment-13834 TIUCHE Thu, 09 Feb 2012 20:16:00 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/revelation18-4#comment-13834 A LETTER FOR BABES & OLD MEN WITHOUT TEETH---ALL THE BABIES & OLD MEN STRANDED IN BABYLON GONNA CRY! Try imagining a place where it's always safe and warm "Come in" she said "I'll give you shelter from the storm". -Bob Dylan,shelter from the Storm Babies crawling in Babylon...the gospel have long been preach...but the babies did not want to let go of their "momma"...they did not know it, she was a bad woman...in her were wolves surrounding every babies born...and the babies were told "be wise as serpent but harmless like a dove..." I've heard newborn babies wailing like a mourning dove And old men with broken teeth stranded without love Do I understand your question man is it hopeless and forlorn "Come in" she said "I'll give you shelter from the storm". -Bob Dylan,shelter from the Storm And the preacher within her THEY DIDN'T GOT NO TEETH AT ALL...no teeth at all...their preaching were a little useless...for the enemy was subtle...and round and round and round they talked and preached ...ever learning but never coming to the truth,,,ever learning but never going out of her confusion! "Moss grows fat on rolling stones!"-Don Maclean, Bye bye American Pie Hear that you holly rollers? And YOU my dear BABIES & OLD MEN with no teeth if despite all the warning you still donot understand, then know for sure You might share HER PUNISHMENT! So wake up! A LETTER FOR BABES & OLD MEN WITHOUT TEETH—ALL THE BABIES & OLD MEN STRANDED IN BABYLON GONNA CRY!

Try imagining a place where it’s always safe and warm
“Come in” she said
“I’ll give you shelter from the storm”.
-Bob Dylan,shelter from the Storm

Babies crawling in Babylon…the gospel have long been preach…but the babies did not want to let go of their “momma”…they did not know it, she was a bad woman…in her were wolves surrounding every babies born…and the babies were told “be wise as serpent but harmless like a dove…”

I’ve heard newborn babies wailing like a mourning dove
And old men with broken teeth stranded without love
Do I understand your question man is it hopeless and forlorn
“Come in” she said
“I’ll give you shelter from the storm”.
-Bob Dylan,shelter from the Storm

And the preacher within her THEY DIDN’T GOT NO TEETH AT ALL…no teeth at all…their preaching were a little useless…for the enemy was subtle…and round and round and round they talked and preached …ever learning but never coming to the truth,,,ever learning but never going out of her confusion!

“Moss grows fat on rolling stones!”-Don Maclean, Bye bye American Pie

Hear that you holly rollers?

And YOU my dear BABIES & OLD MEN with no teeth if despite all the warning you still donot understand, then know for sure You might share HER PUNISHMENT! So wake up!

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Comment on 1 Peter 5: 8 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/1-peter5-8#comment-13833 TIUCHE Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:55:26 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/1-peter5-8#comment-13833 Roland G. I told you long before that you were a chess player who does not know your instruction manual well! You let your adversary win! Yes I read post#2 of Tractorman and you too right? And you know how subtle the enemy is, right? So if you think you are so wise and wiser than him o mortal man, how you gonna win? We win through total surrender to Jesus Christ, are you sure you are fully yielded? Are you sure you understand the implication of what you are saying? do you remember how the friends of Job thought they were right? Yes they were saying the right words, but baby they were dead wrong! SO THINK & PRAY BABY BROTHER if you are indeed a brother in the faith! Roland G. I told you long before that you were a chess player who does not know your instruction manual well! You let your adversary win!

Yes I read post#2 of Tractorman and you too right? And you know how subtle the enemy is, right? So if you think you are so wise and wiser than him o mortal man, how you gonna win?

We win through total surrender to Jesus Christ, are you sure you are fully yielded? Are you sure you understand the implication of what you are saying? do you remember how the friends of Job thought they were right? Yes they were saying the right words, but baby they were dead wrong! SO THINK & PRAY BABY BROTHER if you are indeed a brother in the faith!

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Comment on John 19: 30 by Pastor Rodney Waters http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/john19-30#comment-13832 Pastor Rodney Waters Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:39:57 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/john19-30#comment-13832 This verse John 19:30, It's Finished is not completion but just the beginning. Amen!The Great Commission! Matthew 28:19 and Acts 4:12-20. This verse John 19:30, It’s Finished is not completion but just the beginning. Amen!The Great Commission! Matthew 28:19 and Acts 4:12-20.

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Comment on John 19: 30 by Pastor Rodney Waters http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/john19-30#comment-13831 Pastor Rodney Waters Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:23:52 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/john19-30#comment-13831 I would also like to have more information the divine meaning of those life saving words It's Finished! I would also like to have more information the divine meaning of those life saving words It’s Finished!

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Comment on John 19: 30 by Pastor Rodney Waters http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/john19-30#comment-13830 Pastor Rodney Waters Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:17:54 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/john19-30#comment-13830 I would be extremely appreciate any information on this verse and the entire redemption plan. I would be extremely appreciate any information on this verse and the entire redemption plan.

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Comment on 1 Peter 5: 8 by Roland G http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/1-peter5-8#comment-13829 Roland G Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:19:06 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/1-peter5-8#comment-13829 Tiuche (Post #4): This verse has nothing to do with polygamy or taking on two or more wives. In your chess illustration, the Devil wins if you take on two or more wives. We live in a different dispensation in God's Divine historical timeline for humankind. Did you read Tractorman's posted commentary at #2? Tiuche (Post #4): This verse has nothing to do with polygamy or taking on two or more wives. In your chess illustration, the Devil wins if you take on two or more wives. We live in a different dispensation in God’s Divine historical timeline for humankind. Did you read Tractorman’s posted commentary at #2?

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Comment on 1 Peter 5: 8 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/1-peter5-8#comment-13828 TIUCHE Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:08:27 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/1-peter5-8#comment-13828 ARE YOU A FOOLISH "CHESS PLAYER"? Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour: 1 Peter 5:8 Imagine myself as your coach and the devil as your adversary. You and the adversary is playing the game of chess. And two of your pawns have reach the squares of your enemy but you are a neophyte in the game. And the enemy have spread his lies about the rules of the game. You have been told that you are only allowed one(1) queen and you believed it. And the game is beginning to favor your adversary since your two (2) pawns which have reached his squares could not move since you refuse to convert them to be your queens-you were taught wrongly that you cannot add wives. So the game is now beginning to favor the adversary. So what do you do, obey your own misconception of the game? Would you believe me your coach? Won't you have at least familiarize yourself with the game as per the INSTRUCTION MANUAL? You asked "where, where in the instruction manual" is it written that two or more Queens are allowed?Did i not read it that" a king shall not multiply wives unto himself neither horses?" That a "Bishop" must be a husband of one wife? So I hurriedly show you the instructions and the examples: Deuteronomy 21:15 If a man has two wives, and he loves one but ... bible.cc/deuteronomy/21-15.htmIf a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated... EXODUS 21:10 If he take him another [wife]; her food, her raiment ... www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Exodus-21-10/Exodus 21:10 If he take him another [wife]; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall ... And if he takes another woman, her food and clothing and her married rights are not to be less... 1 Samuel 1:1 There was a certain man from Ramathaim, a Zuphite ... bible.cc/1_samuel/1-1.htmThere was a man named Elkanah who lived in Ramah in the region of Zuph in the .... 1-3 Elkanah, a Levite, having two wives, worships yearly at Shiloh... 1Chronicle 2: verses 18And Caleb the son of Hezron begat children of Azubah his wife 19And when Azubah was dead, Caleb took unto him Ephrath, which bare him Hur 42Now the sons of Caleb the brother of Jerahmeel were, Mesha his firstborn.. 46And Ephah, Caleb's concubine, bare Haran, and Moza, and Gazez: 48Maachah, Caleb's concubine, bare Sheber, and Tirhanah. 2 Chronicles 24:1-3. 1 Joash was seven years old when he began to reign, and he reigned forty years in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Zibiah of Beersheba. 2 And Joash did that which was right in the sight of YHVH all the days of Jehoiada the priest. 3 And Jehoiada took for him two wives; and he begat sons and daughters. Will you believe the record that if ordinary men such as Elkanah and Caleb could have several wives, would it be not permitted for you playing as a King in the game of life? Jehoida the" coach" gave two queens for a King Joash does that not even makes it clearer? If you think having two queens is just still plain wrong then I will leave you alone in your "foolishness"! Could a foolish chess player make a good and effective king? That is yours to ponder! And one more thing to remind you...the called out ones are called to be kings and be coaches...though in the future they would have no queens in there...yet they should be Kings and coaches who had been through, knows and are familiar with the real game of life and their Instruction Manual !These future kings have been through the school of hardknocks when it comes to spiritual battle....So? ARE YOU A FOOLISH “CHESS PLAYER”?
Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:
1 Peter 5:8

Imagine myself as your coach and the devil as your adversary. You and the adversary is playing the game of chess. And two of your pawns have reach the squares of your enemy but you are a neophyte in the game. And the enemy have spread his lies about the rules of the game. You have been told that you are only allowed one(1) queen and you believed it. And the game is beginning to favor your adversary since your two (2) pawns which have reached his squares could not move since you refuse to convert them to be your queens-you were taught wrongly that you cannot add wives. So the game is now beginning to favor the adversary. So what do you do, obey your own misconception of the game? Would you believe me your coach? Won’t you have at least familiarize yourself with the game as per the INSTRUCTION MANUAL?

You asked “where, where in the instruction manual” is it written that two or more Queens are allowed?Did i not read it that” a king shall not multiply wives unto himself neither horses?” That a “Bishop” must be a husband of one wife?

So I hurriedly show you the instructions and the examples:

Deuteronomy 21:15 If a man has two wives, and he loves one but …
bible.cc/deuteronomy/21-15.htmIf a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated…

EXODUS 21:10 If he take him another [wife]; her food, her raiment …
www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Exodus-21-10/Exodus 21:10 If he take him another [wife]; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall … And if he takes another woman, her food and clothing and her married rights are not to be less…

1 Samuel 1:1 There was a certain man from Ramathaim, a Zuphite …
bible.cc/1_samuel/1-1.htmThere was a man named Elkanah who lived in Ramah in the region of Zuph in the …. 1-3 Elkanah, a Levite, having two wives, worships yearly at Shiloh…

1Chronicle 2: verses
18And Caleb the son of Hezron begat children of Azubah his wife
19And when Azubah was dead, Caleb took unto him Ephrath, which bare him Hur
42Now the sons of Caleb the brother of Jerahmeel were, Mesha his firstborn..
46And Ephah, Caleb’s concubine, bare Haran, and Moza, and Gazez:
48Maachah, Caleb’s concubine, bare Sheber, and Tirhanah.

2 Chronicles 24:1-3.
1 Joash was seven years old when he began to reign, and he reigned forty years in Jerusalem. His mother’s name also was Zibiah of Beersheba.
2 And Joash did that which was right in the sight of YHVH all the days of Jehoiada the priest.
3 And Jehoiada took for him two wives; and he begat sons and daughters.

Will you believe the record that if ordinary men such as Elkanah and Caleb could have several wives, would it be not permitted for you playing as a King in the game of life? Jehoida the” coach” gave two queens for a King Joash does that not even makes it clearer? If you think having two queens is just still plain wrong then I will leave you alone in your “foolishness”!

Could a foolish chess player make a good and effective king? That is yours to ponder! And one more thing to remind you…the called out ones are called to be kings and be coaches…though in the future they would have no queens in there…yet they should be Kings and coaches who had been through, knows and are familiar with the real game of life and their Instruction Manual !These future kings have been through the school of hardknocks when it comes to spiritual battle….So?

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Comment on Galatians 5: 22 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13827 TIUCHE Thu, 09 Feb 2012 09:00:22 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13827 T.Snow: Yeah I agree with you that being a doer of the word is part of being in and walking in the spirit. However being filled with the spirit of God is not just being filled with the Word of God; We can be filled with the Holy Spirit but if we grieve the spirit by not yielding to its guidance then it is the same as not yielding to the Words of God. Being a doer of the Word-walking in the Spirit is the key. The spirit is the word in us in action in our lives! God promised to give us new hearts! Ezekiel 36:26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I ... bible.cc/ezekiel/36-26.htmAnd I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh “Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt... “But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the Lord, “I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares the Lord, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more” (Jeremiah 31:31-34). T.Snow: Yeah I agree with you that being a doer of the word is part of being in and walking in the spirit. However being filled with the spirit of God is not just being filled with the Word of God; We can be filled with the Holy Spirit but if we grieve the spirit by not yielding to its guidance then it is the same as not yielding to the Words of God. Being a doer of the Word-walking in the Spirit is the key. The spirit is the word in us in action in our lives!

God promised to give us new hearts!

Ezekiel 36:26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I …
bible.cc/ezekiel/36-26.htmAnd I will give you a new heart, and a new spirit I will put within you. And I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh

“Behold, days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt… “But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares the Lord, “I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them,” declares the Lord, “for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more” (Jeremiah 31:31-34).

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Comment on James 1: 2 by Roland G http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/james1-2#comment-13826 Roland G Thu, 09 Feb 2012 06:47:20 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/james1-2#comment-13826 Phillip M. Brown (Post #1): What is the dominant message of James 1:2-4, 1 Sam. 17:33-35; Jeremiah 12:5? Learn and apply God’s Word daily to experience. ________________ Believers should consider the various pressures of life all joy. Without pressures and patience to endure them no one can become spiritually mature. Pressures and patience help believers grow into mature Christian warriors or soldiers who lack nothing. Believers learn to apply God’s Word to experience by first passing basic tests. Successfully passing basic tests builds confidence. Confidence motivates believers to fight the good fight of faith bravely and fearlessly in much greater battles. Believers who cannot pass basic tests cannot pass difficult tests. The infantry foot soldier who exhausts quickly while training in peacetime battle drills pictures the believer not yet fully developed. So, learning how to apply God’s Word to experience is necessary for success in the Devil’s world. It lessens casualty risk. Phillip M. Brown (Post #1): What is the dominant message of James 1:2-4, 1 Sam. 17:33-35; Jeremiah 12:5?

Learn and apply God’s Word daily to experience.
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Believers should consider the various pressures of life all joy. Without pressures and patience to endure them no one can become spiritually mature. Pressures and patience help believers grow into mature Christian warriors or soldiers who lack nothing.

Believers learn to apply God’s Word to experience by first passing basic tests. Successfully passing basic tests builds confidence. Confidence motivates believers to fight the good fight of faith bravely and fearlessly in much greater battles.

Believers who cannot pass basic tests cannot pass difficult tests. The infantry foot soldier who exhausts quickly while training in peacetime battle drills pictures the believer not yet fully developed.

So, learning how to apply God’s Word to experience is necessary for success in the Devil’s world. It lessens casualty risk.

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Comment on Galatians 5: 22 by TSnow http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13825 TSnow Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:32:14 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13825 RePost #7: Just prior to the Flood, we read ... "The Lord God saw how great man's wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time" [Gen.6:5]. What has changed? Becoming a Christian, in no way takes away our sinfulness. RePost #7: Just prior to the Flood, we read … “The Lord God saw how great man’s wickedness on the earth had become, and that every inclination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil all the time” [Gen.6:5].
What has changed? Becoming a Christian, in no way takes away our sinfulness.

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Comment on Galatians 5: 22 by TSnow http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13824 TSnow Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:25:45 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13824 Post #6, TIUCHE: from post #4: "BEING FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT IS BEING FILLED WITH THE WORDS OF GOD." Evangelist D.L. Moody once said, "The Scriptures were not given to increase our knowledge but to change our lives." If I could, without flaw, quote every verse in the Bible, but didn't allow those words to change my life - others would certainly HEAR that I had read the Bible, but if they could not SEE that I had read the Bible, what good is it? Paul tells us not to be conformed to the pattern of this world, but to be transformed by the renewing of our minds[s] (Rom.12]. God's Word transforms our lives when we put it into practice - this is His intention. I am wondering ... why be filled with the Spirit? Or rather, what is the purpose of being filled with the Spirit? Recall in Ac.1, Jesus had given His disciples an impossible task - they were to evangelize the world - to live what they believed. That task would be impossible in their own strength. So God sent His Spirit to accomplish what would never be accomplished in their own strength - God's will. And so it is today. We have that very same mission Jesus gave those disciples. And like them, we cannot not carry it out ourselves. It is through the Holy Spirit in us, that God manifests His power to carry out His will - to BE Jesus to the world. [King] David wrote: "Thy word have I hidden in my heart, that I might not sin against Thee" [Ps.119:11]. David is talking about the Word of God changing / transforming his life. So, being "filled with the Spirit," is not merely being filled with Bible verses; it is living those verses through the power of the Holy Spirit. Thoughts? Post #6, TIUCHE: from post #4: “BEING FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT IS BEING FILLED WITH THE WORDS OF GOD.”
Evangelist D.L. Moody once said, “The Scriptures were not given to increase our knowledge but to change our lives.”
If I could, without flaw, quote every verse in the Bible, but didn’t allow those words to change my life - others would certainly HEAR that I had read the Bible, but if they could not SEE that I had read the Bible, what good is it?
Paul tells us not to be conformed to the pattern of this world, but to be transformed by the renewing of our minds[s] (Rom.12]. God’s Word transforms our lives when we put it into practice - this is His intention.
I am wondering … why be filled with the Spirit? Or rather, what is the purpose of being filled with the Spirit?
Recall in Ac.1, Jesus had given His disciples an impossible task - they were to evangelize the world - to live what they believed. That task would be impossible in their own strength. So God sent His Spirit to accomplish what would never be accomplished in their own strength - God’s will.
And so it is today. We have that very same mission Jesus gave those disciples. And like them, we cannot not carry it out ourselves. It is through the Holy Spirit in us, that God manifests His power to carry out His will - to BE Jesus to the world.
[King] David wrote: “Thy word have I hidden in my heart, that I might not sin against Thee” [Ps.119:11]. David is talking about the Word of God changing / transforming his life.
So, being “filled with the Spirit,” is not merely being filled with Bible verses; it is living those verses through the power of the Holy Spirit.
Thoughts?

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Comment on Amos 5: 26 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/amos5-26#comment-13823 TIUCHE Wed, 08 Feb 2012 15:05:07 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/amos5-26#comment-13823 THE STARS THEY NOW DISPLAY EVERYWHERE in my country but the people are unaware or just do not care about it! From the Star TV Network, to Star News, to Star Award (even Araw (Sun) Award), Stars of all seasons, you might think it was just ordinary lingo or just as things should be. Since they toppled Marcos the phenomena have even become pronounced. Many businesses advertsing with the Sun (Star) as symbol...the big fat sun drinking coke...the fat sun smiling on children as they drink milk...the sun being lassoed by Fido Dido of Seven Up... Every December the people display the Star in their windows and homes unaware...goes to church every SUNday wIthout a hint as to who is the author of their confusion...supposedly celebrating EASTER SUNDAY (Easter-asteris-star/Sun-also a star and day-also a sun...this is triple suns-meant... business)... If you were a member of the "Haring Bakal" Cult in here you be wearing and be entranced with the EYE with the Triangle as an amulet, make an amulet of a coconut shell shape like an eye...and if you are a free mason here you be privilege to mingle with prominent chinese and other filipino businessmen... And what I heard from the net that the Illuminati had a plan of killing people through hunger by constantly hiking the prices of fuel SEEMS to be coming true in my country...their secret combinations- oligarchies that once were being arrested by the government now SEEMS to be untouchables! I remember how they put a star on every known Jews whom later they mostly massacred during the holocaust...I remember too how they dress Senator Benigno Aquino with white and dress his wife Cory Aquino yellow and sang "Tie a yellow ribbon on the old oak tree if you still want me..." The white and yellow flag of the Vatican...I remember it! So you think I am paranoid? My "Christian friend" said I was...that all these things I observe were nothing...the only was...i was a deep reader of the Word while he was a superficial reader but he thought he was normal while i was weird...so? THE STARS THEY NOW DISPLAY EVERYWHERE in my country but the people are unaware or just do not care about it!

From the Star TV Network, to Star News, to Star Award (even Araw (Sun) Award), Stars of all seasons, you might think it was just ordinary lingo or just as things should be.

Since they toppled Marcos the phenomena have even become pronounced. Many businesses advertsing with the Sun (Star) as symbol…the big fat sun drinking coke…the fat sun smiling on children as they drink milk…the sun being lassoed by Fido Dido of Seven Up…

Every December the people display the Star in their windows and homes unaware…goes to church every SUNday wIthout a hint as to who is the author of their confusion…supposedly celebrating EASTER SUNDAY (Easter-asteris-star/Sun-also a star and day-also a sun…this is triple suns-meant…
business)…

If you were a member of the “Haring Bakal” Cult in here you be wearing and be entranced with the EYE with the Triangle as an amulet, make an amulet of a coconut shell shape like an eye…and if you are a free mason here you be privilege to mingle with prominent chinese and other filipino businessmen…

And what I heard from the net that the Illuminati had a plan of killing people through hunger by constantly hiking the prices of fuel SEEMS to be coming true in my country…their secret combinations- oligarchies that once were being arrested by the government now SEEMS to be untouchables!

I remember how they put a star on every known Jews whom later they mostly massacred during the holocaust…I remember too how they dress Senator Benigno Aquino with white and dress his wife Cory Aquino yellow and sang “Tie a yellow ribbon on the old oak tree if you still want me…” The white and yellow flag of the Vatican…I remember it!

So you think I am paranoid? My “Christian friend” said I was…that all these things I observe were nothing…the only was…i was a deep reader of the Word while he was a superficial reader but he thought he was normal while i was weird…so?

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Comment on Galatians 5: 22 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13822 TIUCHE Wed, 08 Feb 2012 10:32:05 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13822 T. Snow: Though are hearts are deceitful once we are converted our hearts become like God and as we begin to sing "Create in me...a clean heart o God...let me be like in all your Ways..."our deceitful hearts& minds are cleanse through His Word, renewing and re creating them into a Heart like His! Our innermost being-our very center-our hearts & minds-our very being-change from glory to glory to be conform to the very image & character of His Son... As Jesus said in John 3:5 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born ... of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Being born through the spirit is being born through His Word: 1 Peter 1:23 For you have been born again, not of perishable seed , but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever Or as in the song Morning Has Broken: "Morning has broken like the first morning Blackbird has SPOKEN like the first bird... Fresh for them springing Fresh from the WORD... BORN of the ONE LIGHT Eden saw play..." Jesus Himself being the Word...being the Light...remember "They Word is a light unto? Born of the one light Eden Saw play...for God spoke the Word and thus it was...so now we are being born again through His Perfect Word and we bear fruit through His Word which are spirit and they are life! May the Lord our God paint our life and let Him smile on us! T. Snow: Though are hearts are deceitful once we are converted our hearts become like God and as we begin to sing “Create in me…a clean heart o God…let me be like in all your Ways…”our deceitful hearts& minds are cleanse through His Word, renewing and re creating them into a Heart like His! Our innermost being-our very center-our hearts & minds-our very being-change from glory to glory to be conform to the very image & character of His Son…

As Jesus said in John 3:5 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a man be born … of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Being born through the spirit is being born through His Word:

1 Peter 1:23 For you have been born again, not of perishable seed
, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever

Or as in the song Morning Has Broken:

“Morning has broken like the first morning
Blackbird has SPOKEN like the first bird…
Fresh for them springing Fresh from the WORD…
BORN of the ONE LIGHT Eden saw play…”

Jesus Himself being the Word…being the Light…remember “They Word is a light unto? Born of the one light Eden Saw play…for God spoke the Word and thus it was…so now we are being born again through His Perfect Word and we bear fruit through His Word which are spirit and they are life!

May the Lord our God paint our life and let Him smile on us!

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Comment on Galatians 5: 22 by TSnow http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13821 TSnow Tue, 07 Feb 2012 16:29:32 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13821 Post #4, TIUCHE: Thanks for your post, bro. I am thinking a little differently. In Gen.2, v.25, I believe, we read that man[kind] was naked when created and "felt no shame." If we were naked when created and not ashamed, this tells me we were not supposed to be concerned about ourselves [as we all are today], but for other people. It is through sin that we are full of pride and self-centeredness [consider the fashion industry for example]. However .... In Gal.2:20, Paul writes, "I HAVE BEEN crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but CHRIST LIVES IN ME. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God who loved me and gave Himself for me" [emphasis mine]. Having BEEN crucified with Jesus and raised with Him to life [2Cor.5:17], "I" [myself] am dead - I no longer live for my own benefit / selfish desires. Rather, through obedience and submission to the leading of the Holy Spirit, the character of Jesus [Gal.5:22-23] is displayed in my life and not the [old] selfish, sinful nature [Gal.5:19-21]. This is the way life was supposed to be. The [sin] nature we are all born with is unrestrained, unlawful. And so it is obedience that determines whether we are Spirit-filled or not. Obedience to God is a day-to-day life process. This struggle to be "obedient" is the battle of which the apostle writes in Gal.5:16-17 [cf.Rom.7:7-25; 8:6]. If we are not experiencing [this] inner-conflict, then there is a problem. You mentioned, "When we are immersed in mind and heart in the study and doing of His Word then are we walking in the Spirit and truly filled with the spirit of God." Certainly, we must study God's Word. But we cannot carry it out in our own strength. It is impossible. How do you think God works in us to carry out His will/Word? It is through His Spirit living in us. But again, God can only work through us as we become obedient to Him - for He is the Potter, and we are the lump of clay. Also, bro, you mentioned Jn.7:38 - "He that believes on me, as the scripture has said, out of his heart shall flow rivers of living water." Am not sure what version this comes from, but the "heart" is deceitful above all things... [Jer.17:9]. One translation I would offer, "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, 'from his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.'" [NAS] - meaning, "life” – as opposed to the dead, sinful nature. Have a great Tuesday. T. Post #4, TIUCHE: Thanks for your post, bro. I am thinking a little differently. In Gen.2, v.25, I believe, we read that man[kind] was naked when created and “felt no shame.” If we were naked when created and not ashamed, this tells me we were not supposed to be concerned about ourselves [as we all are today], but for other people. It is through sin that we are full of pride and self-centeredness [consider the fashion industry for example]. However ….
In Gal.2:20, Paul writes, “I HAVE BEEN crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but CHRIST LIVES IN ME. The life I now live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God who loved me and gave Himself for me” [emphasis mine].
Having BEEN crucified with Jesus and raised with Him to life [2Cor.5:17], “I” [myself] am dead - I no longer live for my own benefit / selfish desires. Rather, through obedience and submission to the leading of the Holy Spirit, the character of Jesus [Gal.5:22-23] is displayed in my life and not the [old] selfish, sinful nature [Gal.5:19-21]. This is the way life was supposed to be. The [sin] nature we are all born with is unrestrained, unlawful. And so it is obedience that determines whether we are Spirit-filled or not. Obedience to God is a day-to-day life process.
This struggle to be “obedient” is the battle of which the apostle writes in Gal.5:16-17 [cf.Rom.7:7-25; 8:6]. If we are not experiencing [this] inner-conflict, then there is a problem.
You mentioned, “When we are immersed in mind and heart in the study and doing of His Word then are we walking in the Spirit and truly filled with the spirit of God.”
Certainly, we must study God’s Word. But we cannot carry it out in our own strength. It is impossible. How do you think God works in us to carry out His will/Word? It is through His Spirit living in us. But again, God can only work through us as we become obedient to Him - for He is the Potter, and we are the lump of clay.
Also, bro, you mentioned Jn.7:38 - “He that believes on me, as the scripture has said, out of his heart shall flow rivers of living water.”
Am not sure what version this comes from, but the “heart” is deceitful above all things… [Jer.17:9].
One translation I would offer, “He who believes in Me, as the Scripture said, ‘from his innermost being will flow rivers of living water.’” [NAS] - meaning, “life” – as opposed to the dead, sinful nature.
Have a great Tuesday. T.

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Comment on Matthew 24: 16 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew24-16#comment-13820 TIUCHE Tue, 07 Feb 2012 15:37:11 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew24-16#comment-13820 Was THIS VERSE Warning the Followers of the Word ONLY FOR THE PAST WHICH HAPPENED AROUND 70 A.D.? I don't think so...history repeats itself...and I believe this verse would be a warning just before the coming GREAT TRIBULATION that the English People-the descendants of Jacob will experience to their brothers the Jews and those that dwell in Judea when the BIG TROUBLE WILL HAVE COME sometimes in the future! Was THIS VERSE Warning the Followers of the Word ONLY FOR THE PAST WHICH HAPPENED AROUND 70 A.D.?

I don’t think so…history repeats itself…and I believe this verse would be a warning just before the coming GREAT TRIBULATION that the English People-the descendants of Jacob will experience to their brothers the Jews and those that dwell in Judea when the BIG TROUBLE WILL HAVE COME sometimes in the future!

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Comment on James 1: 2 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/james1-2#comment-13819 TIUCHE Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:42:09 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/james1-2#comment-13819 THE PROMINENT (DOMINATE) MESSAGE OF JAMES 1:2-4 TOGETHER WITH 2 OTHER VERSES BELOW: James 1 verses 2My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations; 3Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience. 4But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1 Samuel 17 verses: 33And Saul said to David, Thou art not able to go against this Philistine to fight with him: for thou art but a youth, and he a man of war from his youth. 34And David said unto Saul, Thy servant kept his father's sheep, and there came a lion, and a bear, and took a lamb out of the flock: 35And I went out after him, and smote him, and delivered it out of his mouth: and when he arose against me, I caught him by his beard, and smote him, and slew him. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeremiah12: 5If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses? and if in the land of peace, wherein thou trustedst, they wearied thee, then how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- THE PROMINENT MESSAGE IS...with God on our side we will be the victor no matter how hard the test to our faith is! If God be for us who can be against us? Psalm 18:29 With your help I can advance against a troop; with my ... bible.cc/psalms/18-29.htmFor by You I can run upon a troop; And by my God I can leap over a wall. King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) For by thee I have run through a troop; and by my ... 2 Samuel 22:30 With your help I can advance against a troop; with ... bible.cc/2_samuel/22-30.htm"For by You I can run upon a troop; By my God I can leap over a wall. THE PROMINENT (DOMINATE) MESSAGE OF JAMES 1:2-4 TOGETHER WITH 2 OTHER VERSES BELOW:

James 1 verses
2My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
3Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
4But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.
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1 Samuel 17 verses:
33And Saul said to David, Thou art not able to go against this Philistine to fight with him: for thou art but a youth, and he a man of war from his youth.
34And David said unto Saul, Thy servant kept his father’s sheep, and there came a lion, and a bear, and took a lamb out of the flock:
35And I went out after him, and smote him, and delivered it out of his mouth: and when he arose against me, I caught him by his beard, and smote him, and slew him.
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Jeremiah12: 5If thou hast run with the footmen, and they have wearied thee, then how canst thou contend with horses? and if in the land of peace, wherein thou trustedst, they wearied thee, then how wilt thou do in the swelling of Jordan?

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THE PROMINENT MESSAGE IS…with God on our side we will be the victor no matter how hard the test to our faith is! If God be for us who can be against us?

Psalm 18:29 With your help I can advance against a troop; with my …
bible.cc/psalms/18-29.htmFor by You I can run upon a troop; And by my God I can leap over a wall. King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.) For by thee I have run through a troop; and by my …
2 Samuel 22:30 With your help I can advance against a troop; with …
bible.cc/2_samuel/22-30.htm”For by You I can run upon a troop; By my God I can leap over a wall.

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Comment on James 1: 2 by Phillip M Brown http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/james1-2#comment-13818 Phillip M Brown Tue, 07 Feb 2012 13:22:41 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/james1-2#comment-13818 What is the dominate message of James 1:2-4 1st Samuel 17:33-35 and Jeremiah 12:5 What is the dominate message of James 1:2-4

1st Samuel 17:33-35 and

Jeremiah 12:5

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Comment on Galatians 5: 22 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13817 TIUCHE Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:19:58 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13817 BEING FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT IS BEING FILLED WITH THE WORDS OF GOD John 6:63 It is the spirit that gives life; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. When we are immerse in mind and heart in the study and doing of His Word then are we walking in the Spirit and truly filled with the spirit of God. The tongues of fire then will burn within our hearts and mind and from our innermost being will flow out rivers of living water.And with joy (one of the fruit of the spirit) will we quench our thirst from that eternal wells of life and also share that life to others. John 7:38 He that believes on me, as the scripture has said, out of his heart shall flow rivers of living water. Isaiah 12:3 With joy you will draw water from the wells of salvation. He who keeps the Word of Jesus knows this Truth! BEING FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT IS BEING FILLED WITH THE WORDS OF GOD

John 6:63 It is the spirit that gives life; the flesh profits nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

When we are immerse in mind and heart in the study and doing of His Word then are we walking in the Spirit and truly filled with the spirit of God. The tongues of fire then will burn within our hearts and mind and from our innermost being will flow out rivers of living water.And with joy (one of the fruit of the spirit) will we quench our thirst from that eternal wells of life and also share that life to others.

John 7:38 He that believes on me, as the scripture has said, out of his heart shall flow rivers of living water.

Isaiah 12:3 With joy you will draw water from the wells of salvation.

He who keeps the Word of Jesus knows this Truth!

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Comment on Galatians 5: 22 by TSnow http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13816 TSnow Tue, 07 Feb 2012 02:25:26 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13816 RE-post #2 - lets note that, being filled with the Spirit is a life process. There are and will be moments, days, perhaps even longer periods, when we are NOT filled with the Spirit. When our words and/or behavior is not Christ-like, we are not Spirit-filled. RE-post #2 - lets note that, being filled with the Spirit is a life process. There are and will be moments, days, perhaps even longer periods, when we are NOT filled with the Spirit. When our words and/or behavior is not Christ-like, we are not Spirit-filled.

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Comment on Galatians 5: 22 by TSnow http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13815 TSnow Tue, 07 Feb 2012 00:22:02 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/galatians5-22#comment-13815 What does it mean to be "filled with" the Holy Spirit? May I suggest, it means to live our lives submitted to the Spirit's leading / control. Watch... Here in Gal.5, Paul says "the acts of the sinful nature are obvious..." [v.19]. He then lists those BEHAVIORS that make it evident an individual's life is controlled by the sinful nature. Then he says, "But the fruit of the Spirit is..." [v.22]. He then lists those CHARACTER TRAITS that make it evident our lives are controlled by the Holy Spirit [vv.22-23]. These are the attributes of God. Being that we are all born with a disobedient/sinful nature, the "acts" the apostle lists in vv.19-21 come NATURAL to us all. In contrast, the fruit of the Spirit does NOT come natural to us. Thus, these character traits will mark the "Spirit-filled" Christian. They are the evidence of living under the control of the Holy Spirit. It is through submission and obedience to the Spirit that we DIE to self and the "acts" thereof, allowing Jesus to display His character [traits] in us [cf. Gal.2:20]. THIS, is what it means to be "filled with" the Holy Spirit. Are the attributes of Jesus displayed in us. Spiritual Gifts, whatever they might be, are never the evidence of being Spirit-filled. When we receive Jesus as Savior, He abides in us through the presence of His Holy Spirit. Paul tells us in Col.2 that we have been given "fullness" in Christ. We are FILLED with the Holy Spirit. All the power we need TO DO WHAT GOD HAS CALLED US TO DO - is at our fingertips [so to speak]. That power is manifested in us as we become obedient / submissive to His Holy Spirit [dying to self], and for no other reason. Gal.2:20 tells us we-have-died - this means, we are not to live for our own desires. We are not to display those "acts" of our old self [5:19-21], but rather, in submitting to the power/control of the Spirit, He displays "love, joy, peace, patience..." [vv.22-23]. There is no other "evidence" of being filled with the Spirit. What does it mean to be “filled with” the Holy Spirit? May I suggest, it means to live our lives submitted to the Spirit’s leading / control.
Watch… Here in Gal.5, Paul says “the acts of the sinful nature are obvious…” [v.19]. He then lists those BEHAVIORS that make it evident an individual’s life is controlled by the sinful nature.
Then he says, “But the fruit of the Spirit is…” [v.22]. He then lists those CHARACTER TRAITS that make it evident our lives are controlled by the Holy Spirit [vv.22-23]. These are the attributes of God.
Being that we are all born with a disobedient/sinful nature, the “acts” the apostle lists in vv.19-21 come NATURAL to us all. In contrast, the fruit of the Spirit does NOT come natural to us. Thus, these character traits will mark the “Spirit-filled” Christian. They are the evidence of living under the control of the Holy Spirit. It is through submission and obedience to the Spirit that we DIE to self and the “acts” thereof, allowing Jesus to display His character [traits] in us [cf. Gal.2:20].
THIS, is what it means to be “filled with” the Holy Spirit. Are the attributes of Jesus displayed in us.
Spiritual Gifts, whatever they might be, are never the evidence of being Spirit-filled.
When we receive Jesus as Savior, He abides in us through the presence of His Holy Spirit. Paul tells us in Col.2 that we have been given “fullness” in Christ. We are FILLED with the Holy Spirit. All the power we need TO DO WHAT GOD HAS CALLED US TO DO - is at our fingertips [so to speak]. That power is manifested in us as we become obedient / submissive to His Holy Spirit [dying to self], and for no other reason.
Gal.2:20 tells us we-have-died - this means, we are not to live for our own desires. We are not to display those “acts” of our old self [5:19-21], but rather, in submitting to the power/control of the Spirit, He displays “love, joy, peace, patience…” [vv.22-23]. There is no other “evidence” of being filled with the Spirit.

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Comment on Ecclesiastes 2: 8 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/ecclesiastes2-8#comment-13814 TIUCHE Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:32:41 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/ecclesiastes2-8#comment-13814 "CONCUBINES TO MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS"IN ECCLESIASTES 2:8 A collection of beautiful women for one man is physically exhilarating for such a man. That man would 99% never have aids, STD or other diseases from committing fornications and adulteries with harlots. That man would have tasted varieties...which is the spice of life! The truth is coming out! Knowledge is increasing!Here I post an article. Source: http://www.christianmarriage.com/home/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=68 Theology Questions: Concubines, the delight of men. Posted by: Pastor_Don_Milton on Jul 04, 2005 - 10:47 PM Print this story E-mail this to a friend It is often the case that those attacking men's reproductive rights (the right to have more than o­ne wife) fail to read their Bibles thoroughly. A correct rendering of Ecclesiastes 2:8 is found in the Darby translation which you can find below. A similar version can be found in the Revised Standard Version of the Bible. I gathered me also silver and gold, and the peculiar treasure of kings and of the provinces; I got me men-singers and women-singers, and the delights of the children of men, a wife and concubines. Ecclesiastes 2:8 For those who would say that this verse does not endorse having more than o­ne wife I ask, why did the translators of the King James Bible and other bibles based on the King James decide to incorrectly translate the word to something other than the actual word which means "concubine?" What were they covering up? The Hebrew word in question, "shiddah", is translated in the Strongs Hebrew Lexicon as concubine, wife, or harem but instead of using o­ne of those words in the King James Bible the translators used the word musical instruments. The fact is that there is not o­ne negative reference in the Bible to a man's having more than o­ne wife. The o­nly negative references in the Bible to a man's relationship with his wife concern the o­ne to o­ne relationship between a husband and his wife not any type of ganging up o­n him by his wives although such a situation could easily be made into a comedy. If it is a delight to have more than o­ne wife then let's admit it. Men have rights too and o­ne of those rights is to have many wives. “CONCUBINES TO MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS”IN ECCLESIASTES 2:8
A collection of beautiful women for one man is physically exhilarating for such a man. That man would 99% never have aids, STD or other diseases from committing fornications and adulteries with harlots. That man would have tasted varieties…which is the spice of life!

The truth is coming out! Knowledge is increasing!Here I post an article.
Source: http://www.christianmarriage.com/home/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=68

Theology Questions: Concubines, the delight of men.
Posted by: Pastor_Don_Milton on Jul 04, 2005 - 10:47 PM
Print this story E-mail this to a friend

It is often the case that those attacking men’s reproductive rights (the right to have more than o­ne wife) fail to read their Bibles thoroughly. A correct rendering of Ecclesiastes 2:8 is found in the Darby translation which you can find below. A similar version can be found in the Revised Standard Version of the Bible.

I gathered me also silver and gold, and the peculiar treasure of kings and of the provinces; I got me men-singers and women-singers, and the delights of the children of men, a wife and concubines. Ecclesiastes 2:8

For those who would say that this verse does not endorse having more than o­ne wife I ask, why did the translators of the King James Bible and other bibles based on the King James decide to incorrectly translate the word to something other than the actual word which means “concubine?” What were they covering up?

The Hebrew word in question, “shiddah”, is translated in the Strongs Hebrew Lexicon as concubine, wife, or harem but instead of using o­ne of those words in the King James Bible the translators used the word musical instruments. The fact is that there is not o­ne negative reference in the Bible to a man’s having more than o­ne wife. The o­nly negative references in the Bible to a man’s relationship with his wife concern the o­ne to o­ne relationship between a husband and his wife not any type of ganging up o­n him by his wives although such a situation could easily be made into a comedy.

If it is a delight to have more than o­ne wife then let’s admit it. Men have rights too and o­ne of those rights is to have many wives.

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Comment on Romans 7: 3 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/romans7-3#comment-13813 TIUCHE Mon, 06 Feb 2012 14:16:15 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/romans7-3#comment-13813 IS THIS A RIGHT THOUGHT?"So then if, while [his] wife liveth, he be married to another woman, he shall be called an adulterer: but if his wife be dead, he is free from that law; so that he is no adulterer, though he be married to another woman." IF you answer yes! Then you donot really understand your bible. You understand Romans 7:3 like the majority does. so you think the majority is right? If you answer yes! Then you are still wrong again! IS THIS A RIGHT THOUGHT?”So then if, while [his] wife liveth, he be married to another woman, he shall be called an adulterer: but if his wife be dead, he is free from that law; so that he is no adulterer, though he be married to another woman.”

IF you answer yes! Then you donot really understand your bible. You understand Romans 7:3 like the majority does. so you think the majority is right? If you answer yes! Then you are still wrong again!

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Comment on Exodus 21: 10 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/exodus21-10#comment-13812 TIUCHE Mon, 06 Feb 2012 13:52:24 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/exodus21-10#comment-13812 What is the principle behind the law of God regarding PLURAL MARRIAGE (Ex 21:10) A man who is added upon or adds another wife, what was his responsibility to the first wife and what was the responsibility of the first wife toward her husband? The husband is not to cut in half or stop his provision and the duty of marriage to and of the first wife. This includes sex as husband and wife! The Law of plural marriage was given by God to regulate polygyny and as well as to guide men what was right and wrong when it comes to forming the family. God did not prohibit polygyny, monogamy and singleness; He gave us free will to choose which one of them would we want as a way of life. But the modern Pharisees set about to define THEIR definition of marriage. They taught that polygyny was a sin and poisoned the minds of women every where in the world. If the Muslim were not able to defend themselves from their onslaughts-their false doctrine and lies would have ALSO destroyed the MUSLIM families as this have destroyed families everywhere that it have become the popular mores and taboos. They determined that for a man to add another wife is sin. Enclosing the original Laws of God on marriage with this BIG BIG LIE, thus they have adulterated the Laws of God, thus n ow they forbid marriage to a married man not even aware that they are fulfilling the prophesy regarding their departure from the faith and giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrine of demons. With the Big Big Lie so well entrenched and almost every women taught from childhood that they and men are the same and have the same rights-these women grows up rebellious against any man who dares to make himself Lord over them-setting up future families for 75% failure before they are even formed. You wonder why relationship between a man & a woman don't last till death today? Our women had been brainwashed-they do not know the HOLY WOMEN OF OLD AND HOW THESE WOMEN TREATED THEIR INDIVIDUAL HUSBAND! All of these is because of pastors and priest and laymen who do not know the Laws of God as truly revealed in the Holy Scriptures! Blind leaders of the blind...and they walked in the wide road toward destruction of their families and relationships! What is the principle behind the law of God regarding PLURAL MARRIAGE (Ex 21:10)

A man who is added upon or adds another wife, what was his responsibility to the first wife and what was the responsibility of the first wife toward her husband?

The husband is not to cut in half or stop his provision and the duty of marriage to and of the first wife. This includes sex as husband and wife!

The Law of plural marriage was given by God to regulate polygyny and as well as to guide men what was right and wrong when it comes to forming the family. God did not prohibit polygyny, monogamy and singleness; He gave us free will to choose which one of them would we want as a way of life.

But the modern Pharisees set about to define THEIR definition of marriage.
They taught that polygyny was a sin and poisoned the minds of women every where in the world. If the Muslim were not able to defend themselves from their onslaughts-their false doctrine and lies would have ALSO destroyed the MUSLIM families as this have destroyed families everywhere that it have become the popular mores and taboos.

They determined that for a man to add another wife is sin. Enclosing the original Laws of God on marriage with this BIG BIG LIE, thus they have adulterated the Laws of God, thus n ow they forbid marriage to a married man not even aware that they are fulfilling the prophesy regarding their departure from the faith and giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrine of demons.

With the Big Big Lie so well entrenched and almost every women taught from childhood that they and men are the same and have the same rights-these women grows up rebellious against any man who dares to make himself Lord over them-setting up future families for 75% failure before they are even formed. You wonder why relationship between a man & a woman don’t last till death today? Our women had been brainwashed-they do not know the HOLY WOMEN OF OLD AND HOW THESE WOMEN TREATED THEIR INDIVIDUAL HUSBAND! All of these is because of pastors and priest and laymen who do not know the Laws of God as truly revealed in the Holy Scriptures! Blind leaders of the blind…and they walked in the wide road toward destruction of their families and relationships!

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Comment on 1 Corinthians 13: 10 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/1-corinthians13-10#comment-13811 TIUCHE Mon, 06 Feb 2012 13:02:46 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/1-corinthians13-10#comment-13811 NOW WHEN THE NEW WORLD will HAVE COME where righteousness & justice dwells, then that which we do today-the partial prophesy and partial knowledge we have, shall be replaced with full knowledge & the full reality of the fulfillment of the overall prophesies which we did not have. In that day when Jesus and the Kingdom of God have come upon the earth then shall the mystery of God be finish! NOW WHEN THE NEW WORLD will HAVE COME where righteousness & justice dwells, then that which we do today-the partial prophesy and partial knowledge we have, shall be replaced with full knowledge & the full reality of the fulfillment of the overall prophesies which we did not have.

In that day when Jesus and the Kingdom of God have come upon the earth then shall the mystery of God be finish!

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Comment on Mark 5: 9 by pumza http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/mark5-9#comment-13810 pumza Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:42:47 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/mark5-9#comment-13810 I need to understand verse 9 I need to understand verse 9

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Comment on Matthew 12: 29 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-29#comment-13809 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:11:23 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-29#comment-13809 1. Jesus presses the point further a. That He is NOT working b. FOR the devil c. But is superior TO the devil 2. It is Jesus who has an authority a. GREATER than that of the devil 3. It is Jesus who comes into the world a. And overcomes the devil 4. It is Jesus who PLUNDERS the devil‘s house a. And takes what He wants b. From the devil 5. And what does Jesus take from the devil? a. What does Jesus get out of this? 6. Jesus wanted and gets US a. And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience (Eph 2:1-2) b. For he has rescued us from the one who rules in the kingdom of darkness, and he has brought us into the Kingdom of his dear Son (Col 1:13) 7. And He will one day get the kingdoms of the world a. Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdoms of this world have become [the kingdoms] of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!" (Rev 11:15) 1. Jesus presses the point further
a. That He is NOT working
b. FOR the devil
c. But is superior TO the devil
2. It is Jesus who has an authority
a. GREATER than that of the devil
3. It is Jesus who comes into the world
a. And overcomes the devil
4. It is Jesus who PLUNDERS the devil‘s house
a. And takes what He wants
b. From the devil
5. And what does Jesus take from the devil?
a. What does Jesus get out of this?
6. Jesus wanted and gets US
a. And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience (Eph 2:1-2)
b. For he has rescued us from the one who rules in the kingdom of darkness, and he has brought us into the Kingdom of his dear Son (Col 1:13)
7. And He will one day get the kingdoms of the world
a. Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become [the kingdoms] of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!” (Rev 11:15)

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Comment on Matthew 12: 28 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-28#comment-13808 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:10:31 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-28#comment-13808 1. Jesus again is making Messianic claims a. That His presence and working b. Among them is unique c. Even more so than the Jewish exorcists d. For Jesus does NOT need the demon e. To speak its name f. Before Jesus can cast it out 2. How has the Kingdom of God a. Come upon them all b. Or is among them unawares 3. The Kingdom of God is among them a. Because the King is among them b. In the Person and Work of Jesus 4. His message and miracles a. Signify that God is at work again b. Among His people 5. And the Pharisees, who prided themselves a. With spiritual insight b. Did not recognize Jesus as their Messiah c. Even though He was standing d. And working in their very midst 6. How blind ALL of us can be a. When we let legalistic and denominational tradition b. Get in the way of recognizing Jesus c. And His work among us d. Saying this and that is "of the devil" e. Because it does not go along f. With our preconceived expectations 1. Jesus again is making Messianic claims
a. That His presence and working
b. Among them is unique
c. Even more so than the Jewish exorcists
d. For Jesus does NOT need the demon
e. To speak its name
f. Before Jesus can cast it out
2. How has the Kingdom of God
a. Come upon them all
b. Or is among them unawares
3. The Kingdom of God is among them
a. Because the King is among them
b. In the Person and Work of Jesus
4. His message and miracles
a. Signify that God is at work again
b. Among His people
5. And the Pharisees, who prided themselves
a. With spiritual insight
b. Did not recognize Jesus as their Messiah
c. Even though He was standing
d. And working in their very midst
6. How blind ALL of us can be
a. When we let legalistic and denominational tradition
b. Get in the way of recognizing Jesus
c. And His work among us
d. Saying this and that is “of the devil”
e. Because it does not go along
f. With our preconceived expectations

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Comment on Matthew 12: 27 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-27#comment-13807 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:09:35 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-27#comment-13807 1. Jesus puts the Pharisees a. On the horns of a dilemma 2. Jesus has just demonstrated a. That a house divided against itself b. Cannot stand 3. So if the Pharisee answer Jesus a. And say that the Jewish exorcists b. Cast out demons by "God" 4. Then they have proven Jesus‘ point a. That Satan casting out Satan b. Is utter nonsense 5. And their charge against Jesus a. Of casting out demons b. By the power of Satan c. MUST be dismissed 6. If the Pharisees answer Jesus a. And say that the Jewish exorcists b. Cast out demons by "Satan" 7. Then they would be in hot water a. With all the Jewish exorcists b. Who would NOT take kindly to that accusation 1. Jesus puts the Pharisees
a. On the horns of a dilemma
2. Jesus has just demonstrated
a. That a house divided against itself
b. Cannot stand
3. So if the Pharisee answer Jesus
a. And say that the Jewish exorcists
b. Cast out demons by “God”
4. Then they have proven Jesus‘ point
a. That Satan casting out Satan
b. Is utter nonsense
5. And their charge against Jesus
a. Of casting out demons
b. By the power of Satan
c. MUST be dismissed
6. If the Pharisees answer Jesus
a. And say that the Jewish exorcists
b. Cast out demons by “Satan”
7. Then they would be in hot water
a. With all the Jewish exorcists
b. Who would NOT take kindly to that accusation

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Comment on Matthew 12: 26 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-26#comment-13806 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:08:32 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-26#comment-13806 1. Jesus exposes their faulty logic a. By stating that any force b. Fighting against itself c. Will be destroyed 2. Can't you hear Jesus now a. "Now how exactly is Satan benefiting b. If he is using himself to cast out himself?" 3. Be prepared likewise for the "religious crowd" a. To also dismiss YOUR ministry b. Especially if it starts c. To subtract from THEIR numbers d. When it gathers good press e. Attention and influence 4. The religious crowd may claim a. That you too are in fact b. "OF THE DEVIL" 1. Jesus exposes their faulty logic
a. By stating that any force
b. Fighting against itself
c. Will be destroyed
2. Can’t you hear Jesus now
a. “Now how exactly is Satan benefiting
b. If he is using himself to cast out himself?”
3. Be prepared likewise for the “religious crowd”
a. To also dismiss YOUR ministry
b. Especially if it starts
c. To subtract from THEIR numbers
d. When it gathers good press
e. Attention and influence
4. The religious crowd may claim
a. That you too are in fact
b. “OF THE DEVIL”

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Comment on Matthew 12: 25 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-25#comment-13805 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:07:29 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-25#comment-13805 1. Jesus exposes the illogic of their folly 1. Jesus exposes the illogic of their folly

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Comment on Matthew 12: 24 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-24#comment-13804 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:06:50 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-24#comment-13804 1. If you can NOT refute the WORK a. Then slander the MAN b. Who is doing the work 2. The Fundamentalists certainly believed a. THEY were "OF GOD" 3. But they could not free this man a. From demonic possession 4. Now they see Jesus healing this man a. But they certainly did not want b. To admit that Jesus was from God c. Or else they must believe in Him 5. They for sure do not want the crowds a. To start believing b. That Jesus is the Messiah 6. But they could not deny the miracle a. Of what everybody just saw 7. So they simply ascribe Jesus‘ ability to heal a. As a collaborative work with the devil 1. If you can NOT refute the WORK
a. Then slander the MAN
b. Who is doing the work
2. The Fundamentalists certainly believed
a. THEY were “OF GOD”
3. But they could not free this man
a. From demonic possession
4. Now they see Jesus healing this man
a. But they certainly did not want
b. To admit that Jesus was from God
c. Or else they must believe in Him
5. They for sure do not want the crowds
a. To start believing
b. That Jesus is the Messiah
6. But they could not deny the miracle
a. Of what everybody just saw
7. So they simply ascribe Jesus‘ ability to heal
a. As a collaborative work with the devil

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Comment on Matthew 12: 23 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-23#comment-13803 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:05:52 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-23#comment-13803 1. The crowds were now seriously wondering a. If this Jesus was indeed the promised Messiah 1. The crowds were now seriously wondering
a. If this Jesus was indeed the promised Messiah

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Comment on Matthew 12: 22 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-22#comment-13802 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:05:07 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-22#comment-13802 Retelling and amplification of Matthew 9:32-34 1. The crowds thought this would be a tough one a. As nobody had exorcised a demon before b. From a man who could NOT speak 2. Tradition said there was no deliverance from demons a. If you could not get the demon b. To utter its name 3. This man was both blind and mute a. So he could not speak at all 4. Jesus completely heals this man a. Demonstrating His absolute authority and control b. Over both the demonic forces c. And the physical infirmities of this man Retelling and amplification of Matthew 9:32-34

1. The crowds thought this would be a tough one
a. As nobody had exorcised a demon before
b. From a man who could NOT speak
2. Tradition said there was no deliverance from demons
a. If you could not get the demon
b. To utter its name
3. This man was both blind and mute
a. So he could not speak at all
4. Jesus completely heals this man
a. Demonstrating His absolute authority and control
b. Over both the demonic forces
c. And the physical infirmities of this man

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Comment on Matthew 12: 21 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-21#comment-13801 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:03:58 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-21#comment-13801 1. Jesus‘ earthly ministry was primarily to the Jew in Israel a. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matt 10:6) b. But He answered and said, "I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matt 15:24) 2. But there were Gentiles to whom He ministered a. Samaritan woman at the well (John 4:9) b. Syro-Phoenician woman (Mark 7:26) c. Samaritan leper healed (Luke 17:15-16) 3. Peter realizes that the Gentiles can be saved (Acts 11:18) a. And Paul‘s ministry was mainly to the Gentiles (Gal 2:9) 4. In fact we are seeing today a. That far more Gentiles than Jews b. Are coming to Christ 1. Jesus‘ earthly ministry was primarily to the Jew in Israel
a. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel (Matt 10:6)
b. But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” (Matt 15:24)
2. But there were Gentiles to whom He ministered
a. Samaritan woman at the well (John 4:9)
b. Syro-Phoenician woman (Mark 7:26)
c. Samaritan leper healed (Luke 17:15-16)
3. Peter realizes that the Gentiles can be saved (Acts 11:18)
a. And Paul‘s ministry was mainly to the Gentiles (Gal 2:9)
4. In fact we are seeing today
a. That far more Gentiles than Jews
b. Are coming to Christ

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Comment on Matthew 12: 20 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-20#comment-13800 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:03:11 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-20#comment-13800 1. Unlike political revolutionaries a. Such as Lenin, Stalin b. Hitler or Mao 2. Jesus did not kill or imprison a. Any and all opposition 3. We all could take a lesson from this verse a. To learn God‘s heart towards people b. And therefore act likewise 4. It is said that the Church a. Is the only place b. Where we shoot our wounded 5. How so unlike Jesus a. Who demonstrates His tender compassion b. Toward those who struggle c. And seem to barely be making it 6. It can be easy for us a. To get impatient with people b. As they struggle walking after the Spirit 7. But Jesus is so patient a. And does NOT castigate them b. To "snap out of it" c. Or to "grow up" 8. He is right there in the midst of their suffering a. Encouraging them in their Christian growth b. Walking with them step by step c. Not writing them off as spiritual losers 1. Unlike political revolutionaries
a. Such as Lenin, Stalin
b. Hitler or Mao
2. Jesus did not kill or imprison
a. Any and all opposition
3. We all could take a lesson from this verse
a. To learn God‘s heart towards people
b. And therefore act likewise
4. It is said that the Church
a. Is the only place
b. Where we shoot our wounded
5. How so unlike Jesus
a. Who demonstrates His tender compassion
b. Toward those who struggle
c. And seem to barely be making it
6. It can be easy for us
a. To get impatient with people
b. As they struggle walking after the Spirit
7. But Jesus is so patient
a. And does NOT castigate them
b. To “snap out of it”
c. Or to “grow up”
8. He is right there in the midst of their suffering
a. Encouraging them in their Christian growth
b. Walking with them step by step
c. Not writing them off as spiritual losers

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Comment on Matthew 12: 19 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-19#comment-13799 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:02:11 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-19#comment-13799 1. Jesus did NOT fight a war of words against Rome a. Nor try to overthrow the religious order 2. Jesus did NOT come to earth a. To foment a political b. Or military revolution 3. He did not rouse the crowd to a fevered pitch a. To engender social and political change b. Nor to throw off the rule of Rome over Israel 4. When they did attempt to make Him king (John 6:14-15) a. He would NOT let them do so b. But would slip away 1. Jesus did NOT fight a war of words against Rome
a. Nor try to overthrow the religious order
2. Jesus did NOT come to earth
a. To foment a political
b. Or military revolution
3. He did not rouse the crowd to a fevered pitch
a. To engender social and political change
b. Nor to throw off the rule of Rome over Israel
4. When they did attempt to make Him king (John 6:14-15)
a. He would NOT let them do so
b. But would slip away

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Comment on Matthew 12: 18 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-18#comment-13798 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:01:21 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-18#comment-13798 1. Jesus was sovereignly selected by the Father a. And He is loved by His Father 2. And the Father is fully satisfied in Him as His Son a. And suddenly a voice [came] from heaven, saying, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." (Matt 3:17) 3. Jesus will be led by the Holy Spirit a. When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him (Matt 3:16) b. Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil (Matt 4:1) 4. Jesus did interact with the Gentiles a. The Samaritan woman and those in Samaria (John 4:5-42) b. The Canaanite woman (Mark 7:24-30) c. Samaritan leper healed (Luke 17:15-16) 5. But His ministry through the Apostles a. Philip, Peter and John in Samaria (Acts 8:5-25) b. Philip with the Eunuch (Acts 8:26-40) c. Peter with Cornelius (Acts 10) 6. And Paul would spread THROUGHOUT Gentile lands a. And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we [should go] to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised (Gal 2:9) 1. Jesus was sovereignly selected by the Father
a. And He is loved by His Father
2. And the Father is fully satisfied in Him as His Son
a. And suddenly a voice [came] from heaven, saying, “This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” (Matt 3:17)
3. Jesus will be led by the Holy Spirit
a. When He had been baptized, Jesus came up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened to Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and alighting upon Him (Matt 3:16)
b. Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil (Matt 4:1)
4. Jesus did interact with the Gentiles
a. The Samaritan woman and those in Samaria (John 4:5-42)
b. The Canaanite woman (Mark 7:24-30)
c. Samaritan leper healed (Luke 17:15-16)
5. But His ministry through the Apostles
a. Philip, Peter and John in Samaria (Acts 8:5-25)
b. Philip with the Eunuch (Acts 8:26-40)
c. Peter with Cornelius (Acts 10)
6. And Paul would spread THROUGHOUT Gentile lands
a. And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we [should go] to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised (Gal 2:9)

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Comment on Matthew 12: 17 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-17#comment-13797 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:00:19 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-17#comment-13797 1. Matthew writes to his Jewish audience of Jesus‘ fulfilling scripture a. (Isa 41:9, 42:1-4) 1. Matthew writes to his Jewish audience of Jesus‘ fulfilling scripture
a. (Isa 41:9, 42:1-4)

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Comment on Matthew 12: 16 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-16#comment-13796 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:59:00 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-16#comment-13796 1. Jesus did NOT want a. A high level of attention at this time 2. He did NOT need the secular attention a. Of Rome if seized and made King b. By MEN (John 6:15) 3. For that would have quickly invited a. Unwanted military action from Rome 4. And Jesus said His kingdom a. Was NOT of this world (John 18:36) 5. For He did not come the first time a. To set up His earthly Kingdom 6. Jesus came to DIE for the sins of the world a. Not to rule from David‘s throne in Jerusalem 7. Jesus ALSO knew He was to die a. As the Passover Lamb b. No earlier and no later 8. So He did not want the attention a. Of the religious crowd b. To get Him killed at this time 9. His revolution would NOT be redeemed a. By the blood of patriots b. Liberating Israel from Rome 10. Jesus would redeem men (Eph 1:7) a. From the penalty and power of sin b. With His own blood on Calvary‘s Cross 1. Jesus did NOT want
a. A high level of attention at this time
2. He did NOT need the secular attention
a. Of Rome if seized and made King
b. By MEN (John 6:15)
3. For that would have quickly invited
a. Unwanted military action from Rome
4. And Jesus said His kingdom
a. Was NOT of this world (John 18:36)
5. For He did not come the first time
a. To set up His earthly Kingdom
6. Jesus came to DIE for the sins of the world
a. Not to rule from David‘s throne in Jerusalem
7. Jesus ALSO knew He was to die
a. As the Passover Lamb
b. No earlier and no later
8. So He did not want the attention
a. Of the religious crowd
b. To get Him killed at this time
9. His revolution would NOT be redeemed
a. By the blood of patriots
b. Liberating Israel from Rome
10. Jesus would redeem men (Eph 1:7)
a. From the penalty and power of sin
b. With His own blood on Calvary‘s Cross

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Comment on Matthew 12: 15 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-15#comment-13795 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:58:15 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-15#comment-13795 1. Not only did Jesus heal THAT man a. With a withered hand on the Sabbath 2. But then He healed EVERYONE a. Who came to Him on that Sabbath 3. Jesus knew His time to die was not yet a. So He simply leaves the synagogue 4. He does not pout nor get discouraged a. At being rejected b. By the Fundamentalists 5. But continues to heal in spite a. Of the opposition b. By the religious crowd 6. We as well can NOT live our lives a. Either in FEAR OF b. Nor in trying to PLEASE c. "CHURCH-PEOPLE" 7. For we will get mixed reviews at best a. And lose our lives at worst 8. Do what God has told you to do a. Until He tells you b. To do something else 1. Not only did Jesus heal THAT man
a. With a withered hand on the Sabbath
2. But then He healed EVERYONE
a. Who came to Him on that Sabbath
3. Jesus knew His time to die was not yet
a. So He simply leaves the synagogue
4. He does not pout nor get discouraged
a. At being rejected
b. By the Fundamentalists
5. But continues to heal in spite
a. Of the opposition
b. By the religious crowd
6. We as well can NOT live our lives
a. Either in FEAR OF
b. Nor in trying to PLEASE
c. “CHURCH-PEOPLE”
7. For we will get mixed reviews at best
a. And lose our lives at worst
8. Do what God has told you to do
a. Until He tells you
b. To do something else

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Comment on Matthew 12: 14 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-14#comment-13794 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:57:15 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-14#comment-13794 1. Are the Fundamentalists excited? a. Do they rejoice over a man being healed? b. Do they fall down and worship Jesus as Messiah? 2. No! They are NOT happy at all! a. Because one of THEIR own rules b. Additional Gezerah (fences around the Torah) c. Regarding the Sabbath was broken 3. In fact, they gather outside to discuss a. How they might bring Jesus to ruin b. Which eventually (humanly speaking) they do 4. Notice they do NOT deny the miracle a. Or even attribute it to the devil 5. But they are madder than hornets a. At this rule-breaking Jesus fellow 6. You will NEVER win with the legalists a. Because they always have a verse b. Albeit usually twisted out of context 7. And if they do NOT have a verse a. They have a "principle" b. A Christian "Gezerah" if you will c. A FENCE around the Bible d. Of "little helper-rules" for God's people e. Which are just as important mind you 8. You WILL eventually break one of these rules a. And then have the misfortune b. Of suffering their wrath 9. How MADDENING and HEARTBREAKING a. This must have been to Jesus 10. For these are the religious LEADERS a. The ones who STUDY the scriptures b. The ones who should really KNOW God's HEART c. The ones who REPRESENT God to the people 11. I can imagine a heavy sigh of FRUSTRATION a. To watch them miss the point entirely b. Of both the "grain" and "withered hand" lessons c. That the Sabbath was made for man d. And not man for the Sabbath e. That God's heart is about MERCY and doing GOOD f. And NOT about keeping unbiblical extremes 12. Jesus came to reveal the heart of God a. That God so LOVED the world (John 3:16) 13. But He finds His greatest opposition from the religious crowd a. The very ones who are claiming to REPRESENT God 14. Please endeavor to represent Jesus biblically before others a. He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked (1 Jo 2:6) 1. Are the Fundamentalists excited?
a. Do they rejoice over a man being healed?
b. Do they fall down and worship Jesus as Messiah?
2. No! They are NOT happy at all!
a. Because one of THEIR own rules
b. Additional Gezerah (fences around the Torah)
c. Regarding the Sabbath was broken
3. In fact, they gather outside to discuss
a. How they might bring Jesus to ruin
b. Which eventually (humanly speaking) they do
4. Notice they do NOT deny the miracle
a. Or even attribute it to the devil
5. But they are madder than hornets
a. At this rule-breaking Jesus fellow
6. You will NEVER win with the legalists
a. Because they always have a verse
b. Albeit usually twisted out of context
7. And if they do NOT have a verse
a. They have a “principle”
b. A Christian “Gezerah” if you will
c. A FENCE around the Bible
d. Of “little helper-rules” for God’s people
e. Which are just as important mind you
8. You WILL eventually break one of these rules
a. And then have the misfortune
b. Of suffering their wrath
9. How MADDENING and HEARTBREAKING
a. This must have been to Jesus
10. For these are the religious LEADERS
a. The ones who STUDY the scriptures
b. The ones who should really KNOW God’s HEART
c. The ones who REPRESENT God to the people
11. I can imagine a heavy sigh of FRUSTRATION
a. To watch them miss the point entirely
b. Of both the “grain” and “withered hand” lessons
c. That the Sabbath was made for man
d. And not man for the Sabbath
e. That God’s heart is about MERCY and doing GOOD
f. And NOT about keeping unbiblical extremes
12. Jesus came to reveal the heart of God
a. That God so LOVED the world (John 3:16)
13. But He finds His greatest opposition from the religious crowd
a. The very ones who are claiming to REPRESENT God
14. Please endeavor to represent Jesus biblically before others
a. He who says he abides in Him ought himself also to walk just as He walked (1 Jo 2:6)

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Comment on Matthew 12: 13 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-13#comment-13793 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:55:14 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-13#comment-13793 1. Mark records that Jesus first looked around (Mark 3:5) a. With settled indignation b. And with deep grief c. Over the hardness of their hearts 2. They would rather see this man remain crippled a. Than to see him healed b. If it meant the healing c. Were on the Sabbath 3. The Legalists were so locked a. Into THEIR own interpretation of the Sabbath b. Which focused on PROHIBITIONS c. Rather than on its PERMISSIONS 4. Their faces did NOT light up and rejoice a. And thank Jesus for enlightening them b. As to the TRUE intent of the Sabbath c. And then expectantly wait d. For Him to heal the man 5. No, they either stood or sat there a. Just waiting for Jesus b. To violate THEIR standards 6. So it made Jesus indignant and grieved at the same time a. To see their hard hearts b. And frowns of judgment and condemnation 7. Jesus did not ask the man a. If he believed Jesus could heal him 8. He gives the crippled man a simple command a. To do something he normally could not 9. The man simply obeys a. And is healed instantly and completely 10. God works that way with us sometimes a. By giving us a new ministry i. Far beyond our human abilities b. Or a change of geography i. Outside of our comfort zones 11. We just have to remember a. That God loves us b. And does what is best for us c. That what He COMMANDS d. He also EMPOWERS 1. Mark records that Jesus first looked around (Mark 3:5)
a. With settled indignation
b. And with deep grief
c. Over the hardness of their hearts
2. They would rather see this man remain crippled
a. Than to see him healed
b. If it meant the healing
c. Were on the Sabbath
3. The Legalists were so locked
a. Into THEIR own interpretation of the Sabbath
b. Which focused on PROHIBITIONS
c. Rather than on its PERMISSIONS
4. Their faces did NOT light up and rejoice
a. And thank Jesus for enlightening them
b. As to the TRUE intent of the Sabbath
c. And then expectantly wait
d. For Him to heal the man
5. No, they either stood or sat there
a. Just waiting for Jesus
b. To violate THEIR standards
6. So it made Jesus indignant and grieved at the same time
a. To see their hard hearts
b. And frowns of judgment and condemnation
7. Jesus did not ask the man
a. If he believed Jesus could heal him
8. He gives the crippled man a simple command
a. To do something he normally could not
9. The man simply obeys
a. And is healed instantly and completely
10. God works that way with us sometimes
a. By giving us a new ministry
i. Far beyond our human abilities
b. Or a change of geography
i. Outside of our comfort zones
11. We just have to remember
a. That God loves us
b. And does what is best for us
c. That what He COMMANDS
d. He also EMPOWERS

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Comment on Matthew 12: 12 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-12#comment-13792 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:54:30 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-12#comment-13792 1. Since it is the RIGHT thing to do a. In helping out an hurting ANIMAL b. On the Sabbath 2. Then it is DEFINITELY the RIGHT thing to do a. To help out your fellow MAN on the Sabbath b. Because people are created in the image of God 3. But these hard-hearted Legalists did NOT get it a. Choosing rather to obey their man-made rules b. Than to help out their fellow man in need 4. They more than likely thought a. That God was like them b. That He was far more interested c. In sacrifice than mercy 5. I can hear them now a. If God did not want that animal to fall into the pit b. Then He would have prevented it c. But since He didn't prevent it on the Sabbath d. Then it must be His will that animal stay there e. And maybe God is testing my obedience f. To do no work on the Sabbath 6. We do the same things today a. We pass somebody needing help with a flat tire i. Because it will make us late for church b. We fear being chided by God and man with the admonition i. Of "not forsaking the assembling ourselves together" (Heb 10:25) ii. Or "Let the dead bury the dead (Luke 9:60), but you get to church !!" 7. We put premiums on rules and restrictions a. Which are FAR from God's heart 8. And it ANGERS Him a. Because we are no longer b. Reflecting HIS heart 9. We falsely represent Him to the world a. As rigid, austere and mean-spirited b. Far more interested in LAW and rules c. Than in mercy and kindness 1. Since it is the RIGHT thing to do
a. In helping out an hurting ANIMAL
b. On the Sabbath
2. Then it is DEFINITELY the RIGHT thing to do
a. To help out your fellow MAN on the Sabbath
b. Because people are created in the image of God
3. But these hard-hearted Legalists did NOT get it
a. Choosing rather to obey their man-made rules
b. Than to help out their fellow man in need
4. They more than likely thought
a. That God was like them
b. That He was far more interested
c. In sacrifice than mercy
5. I can hear them now
a. If God did not want that animal to fall into the pit
b. Then He would have prevented it
c. But since He didn’t prevent it on the Sabbath
d. Then it must be His will that animal stay there
e. And maybe God is testing my obedience
f. To do no work on the Sabbath
6. We do the same things today
a. We pass somebody needing help with a flat tire
i. Because it will make us late for church
b. We fear being chided by God and man with the admonition
i. Of “not forsaking the assembling ourselves together” (Heb 10:25)
ii. Or “Let the dead bury the dead (Luke 9:60), but you get to church !!”
7. We put premiums on rules and restrictions
a. Which are FAR from God’s heart
8. And it ANGERS Him
a. Because we are no longer
b. Reflecting HIS heart
9. We falsely represent Him to the world
a. As rigid, austere and mean-spirited
b. Far more interested in LAW and rules
c. Than in mercy and kindness

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Comment on Matthew 12: 11 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-11#comment-13791 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:52:50 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-11#comment-13791 1. Jesus makes a point going from the lesser to the greater 1. Jesus makes a point going from the lesser to the greater

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Comment on Matthew 12: 10 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-10#comment-13790 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:52:18 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-10#comment-13790 1. Instead of flat-out accusing Jesus‘ disciples a. Of breaking the Sabbath b. And getting a Bible lesson from Jesus c. Like they did LAST time 2. This time around they change their tactic a. And question Jesus whether healing b. Is lawful to do on the Sabbath 3. The legalists do NOT ask this question a. In order to learn biblical truth b. But to bait Jesus into saying something c. Against their interpretation d. Of "working" on the Sabbath 4. This would FURTHER justify a. Their rejection of Him b. And their condemnation of Him 1. Instead of flat-out accusing Jesus‘ disciples
a. Of breaking the Sabbath
b. And getting a Bible lesson from Jesus
c. Like they did LAST time
2. This time around they change their tactic
a. And question Jesus whether healing
b. Is lawful to do on the Sabbath
3. The legalists do NOT ask this question
a. In order to learn biblical truth
b. But to bait Jesus into saying something
c. Against their interpretation
d. Of “working” on the Sabbath
4. This would FURTHER justify
a. Their rejection of Him
b. And their condemnation of Him

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Comment on Matthew 12: 9 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-9#comment-13789 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:51:27 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-9#comment-13789 1. Matthew again provides the "Reader‘s Digest" version a. And does not give a lot of attention b. In trying to maintain a timeline 2. Matthew simply records no gap a. Between Matt 12:9a and Matt 12:9b 3. Whereas Luke 6:6 states Jesus a. Entered the synagogue b. On a DIFFERENT (heteros) Sabbath 4. And Mark 3:1 states Jesus a. Entered the synagogue again b. Presumably at a different time 5. I love the BOLDNESS of Jesus a. That instead of running b. Or slinking away c. From the religious leaders 6. He purposely walks into THEIR synagogue a. To PROVE His point b. That it IS right to do GOOD c. Even on the Sabbath 1. Matthew again provides the “Reader‘s Digest” version
a. And does not give a lot of attention
b. In trying to maintain a timeline
2. Matthew simply records no gap
a. Between Matt 12:9a and Matt 12:9b
3. Whereas Luke 6:6 states Jesus
a. Entered the synagogue
b. On a DIFFERENT (heteros) Sabbath
4. And Mark 3:1 states Jesus
a. Entered the synagogue again
b. Presumably at a different time
5. I love the BOLDNESS of Jesus
a. That instead of running
b. Or slinking away
c. From the religious leaders
6. He purposely walks into THEIR synagogue
a. To PROVE His point
b. That it IS right to do GOOD
c. Even on the Sabbath

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Comment on Matthew 12: 8 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-8#comment-13788 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:50:36 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-8#comment-13788 Posts #1 & #2 are connected. From the Believer‘s Bible Commentary: As a faithful Jew living under the law, Jesus kept the Sabbath (in spite of the accusations of the Pharisees to the contrary). As the Lord of the Sabbath, He freed it from the false rules and regulations with which it had become encrusted. The prohibition against work on the Sabbath was never intended to apply to: the service of God (Matt 12:5), deeds of necessity (Matt. 12:3-4), or deeds of mercy (Matt. 12:11-12). Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the NT, not as law but as instructions for Christians living under grace. The only commandment Christians are never told to keep is that of the Sabbath. Rather, Paul teaches that the Christian cannot be condemned for failing to keep it (Col. 2:16). The Sabbath was not part of the Law for Gentiles to observe (Acts 15:20, 29). Posts #1 & #2 are connected.

From the Believer‘s Bible Commentary:
As a faithful Jew living under the law, Jesus kept the Sabbath (in spite of the accusations of the Pharisees to the contrary). As the Lord of the Sabbath, He freed it from the false rules and regulations with which it
had become encrusted.

The prohibition against work on the Sabbath was never intended to apply to: the service of God (Matt 12:5), deeds of necessity (Matt. 12:3-4), or deeds of mercy (Matt. 12:11-12).

Nine of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the NT, not as law but as instructions for Christians living under grace. The only commandment Christians are never told to keep is that of the Sabbath.

Rather, Paul teaches that the Christian cannot be condemned for failing to keep it (Col. 2:16). The Sabbath was not part of the Law for Gentiles to observe (Acts 15:20, 29).

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Comment on Matthew 12: 8 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-8#comment-13787 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:49:22 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-8#comment-13787 Posts #1 & #2 are connected. 1. Jesus is claiming Deity as Master of the Sabbath a. And can authoritatively decide b. Whether the Sabbath was broken or not 2. Jesus has the RIGHT to pass judgment a. Not only over any and all b. MAN-MADE sabbatarian rules c. But also over the Sabbath itself 3. For man was NOT made for the Sabbath (Mark 2:27) a. But Sabbath for man to stop working b. For 1 day a week to refresh himself c. Celebrate and commune with God 4. Jesus can suspend and supersede Sabbath laws a. In any way He so chooses 5. Does this mean God is violating His Word? a. Is sin ever condoned by God? 6. No, God does NOT violate His Word a. As evidenced by the judgment b. Of the man collecting wood (Num 15:32-36) 7. But God‘s mercy OVERRULED a. The letter of the law in David‘s case b. As a legitimate need outweighed c. A general prohibition 8. And God‘s command to serve SUPERSEDED a. The law in the priest‘s case 9. And NO Law was violated a. In the disciple‘s case of eating grain Posts #1 & #2 are connected.

1. Jesus is claiming Deity as Master of the Sabbath
a. And can authoritatively decide
b. Whether the Sabbath was broken or not
2. Jesus has the RIGHT to pass judgment
a. Not only over any and all
b. MAN-MADE sabbatarian rules
c. But also over the Sabbath itself
3. For man was NOT made for the Sabbath (Mark 2:27)
a. But Sabbath for man to stop working
b. For 1 day a week to refresh himself
c. Celebrate and commune with God
4. Jesus can suspend and supersede Sabbath laws
a. In any way He so chooses
5. Does this mean God is violating His Word?
a. Is sin ever condoned by God?
6. No, God does NOT violate His Word
a. As evidenced by the judgment
b. Of the man collecting wood (Num 15:32-36)
7. But God‘s mercy OVERRULED
a. The letter of the law in David‘s case
b. As a legitimate need outweighed
c. A general prohibition
8. And God‘s command to serve SUPERSEDED
a. The law in the priest‘s case
9. And NO Law was violated
a. In the disciple‘s case of eating grain

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Comment on Matthew 12: 7 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-7#comment-13786 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:48:14 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-7#comment-13786 1. Legalism so focuses on the rule-keeping a. And especially the PROHIBITIONS 2. That MERCY gets left behind a. As one of the KEY characteristics b. Of God‘s heart 3. David was NOT trying to either steal food a. Or look for an easy meal 4. He broke neither the SPIRIT a. Nor the INTENT of the Law 5. He had a legitimate and urgent need a. And God honored him and his men 6. The priests were acting in the service of the Lord a. At His very command even if in doing so b. They technically broke the Sabbath 7. And Jesus‘ disciples were ALSO guiltless a. For eating the grain when they were hungry 8. Jesus calls David, the priests and the disciples GUILTLESS a. Something the legalists would NEVER do 9. Legalists today are just like their Pharisaical counterparts a. "I don‘t care you were in the pub witnessing, you were still in a pub !!" b. "I know you want to re-connect with your kids, but Sundays are for church !!" c. "Your tithe money is for the church, not for the beggar on the street !!" 10. Legalism misses the point that the MORAL intent a. Be it NEED, SERVICE or showing MERCY b. Always has priority OVER c. The CEREMONIAL ritual 11. This is NOT saying that God‘s Laws a. Are to be treated lightly or dismissed 12. But this IS saying that God‘s heart a. Values Mercy ABOVE ritual b. And definitely above man-made rules 13. During my days in legalism a. We wondered if we should b. Help a woman slipping on ice c. Who was not our wife d. Because we would violate 1 Cor 7:1 e. That it is good that a man f. NOT touch a woman 14. We had not only misinterpreted a scripture a. But we actually wondered b. If it would be better for her c. Just to fall and get hurt d. Than to violate a perceived "rule" 1. Legalism so focuses on the rule-keeping
a. And especially the PROHIBITIONS
2. That MERCY gets left behind
a. As one of the KEY characteristics
b. Of God‘s heart
3. David was NOT trying to either steal food
a. Or look for an easy meal
4. He broke neither the SPIRIT
a. Nor the INTENT of the Law
5. He had a legitimate and urgent need
a. And God honored him and his men
6. The priests were acting in the service of the Lord
a. At His very command even if in doing so
b. They technically broke the Sabbath
7. And Jesus‘ disciples were ALSO guiltless
a. For eating the grain when they were hungry
8. Jesus calls David, the priests and the disciples GUILTLESS
a. Something the legalists would NEVER do
9. Legalists today are just like their Pharisaical counterparts
a. “I don‘t care you were in the pub witnessing, you were still in a pub !!”
b. “I know you want to re-connect with your kids, but Sundays are for church !!”
c. “Your tithe money is for the church, not for the beggar on the street !!”
10. Legalism misses the point that the MORAL intent
a. Be it NEED, SERVICE or showing MERCY
b. Always has priority OVER
c. The CEREMONIAL ritual
11. This is NOT saying that God‘s Laws
a. Are to be treated lightly or dismissed
12. But this IS saying that God‘s heart
a. Values Mercy ABOVE ritual
b. And definitely above man-made rules
13. During my days in legalism
a. We wondered if we should
b. Help a woman slipping on ice
c. Who was not our wife
d. Because we would violate 1 Cor 7:1
e. That it is good that a man
f. NOT touch a woman
14. We had not only misinterpreted a scripture
a. But we actually wondered
b. If it would be better for her
c. Just to fall and get hurt
d. Than to violate a perceived “rule”

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Comment on Matthew 12: 6 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-6#comment-13785 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:46:17 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-6#comment-13785 1. Wow – this had to blow them away a. What do you mean GREATER b. Than the Temple ??? 2. To the religious Jew a. The Temple was the HEART b. Of Judaism itself !!! 3. It was THE most sacred place on earth a. Where God met His people 4. And now here is Jesus a. Telling them that HE b. Is GREATER than the Temple 5. This is yet ANOTHER instance a. Of Jesus claiming His DEITY 6. For NO HUMAN would dare a. To be so bold b. To claim THEY were greater c. Than where God met His people 7. So Jesus is now saying a. That if the priests serving b. In the Temple on the Sabbath c. And technically profaning it d. Were NOT held guilty by God 8. Then it stands to reason that JESUS a. Who is GREATER than the Temple b. And now standing here on earth 9. Would KNOW if the disciples a. Had profaned the Sabbath 1. Wow – this had to blow them away
a. What do you mean GREATER
b. Than the Temple ???
2. To the religious Jew
a. The Temple was the HEART
b. Of Judaism itself !!!
3. It was THE most sacred place on earth
a. Where God met His people
4. And now here is Jesus
a. Telling them that HE
b. Is GREATER than the Temple
5. This is yet ANOTHER instance
a. Of Jesus claiming His DEITY
6. For NO HUMAN would dare
a. To be so bold
b. To claim THEY were greater
c. Than where God met His people
7. So Jesus is now saying
a. That if the priests serving
b. In the Temple on the Sabbath
c. And technically profaning it
d. Were NOT held guilty by God
8. Then it stands to reason that JESUS
a. Who is GREATER than the Temple
b. And now standing here on earth
9. Would KNOW if the disciples
a. Had profaned the Sabbath

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Comment on Matthew 12: 5 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-5#comment-13784 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:45:22 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-5#comment-13784 1. Not only did David technically violate the Law a. By eating the showbread b. Which was reserved for the priests c. But was shown MERCY 2. But the priests themselves technically violated the Law a. By "working" on the Sabbath b. In the normal course of their duties 3. But they were not killed for doing so a. Because they are engaged b. In the service of the Lord c. Which He had commanded them to do 1. Not only did David technically violate the Law
a. By eating the showbread
b. Which was reserved for the priests
c. But was shown MERCY
2. But the priests themselves technically violated the Law
a. By “working” on the Sabbath
b. In the normal course of their duties
3. But they were not killed for doing so
a. Because they are engaged
b. In the service of the Lord
c. Which He had commanded them to do

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Comment on Matthew 12: 4 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-4#comment-13783 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:44:01 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-4#comment-13783 1. David was NEVER condemned by God a. For eating the shewbread 2. He was hungry and NEEDED to eat a. And God showed mercy 1. David was NEVER condemned by God
a. For eating the shewbread
2. He was hungry and NEEDED to eat
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Comment on Matthew 12: 3 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-3#comment-13782 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:43:01 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-3#comment-13782 1. Jesus always takes us back to the scripture a. To CORRECT our errors in thinking 1. Jesus always takes us back to the scripture
a. To CORRECT our errors in thinking

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Comment on Matthew 12: 2 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-2#comment-13781 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:42:02 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-2#comment-13781 1. What is the law of the Sabbath (Ex 20:8-11) a. Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh day shall be a holy day for you, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death (Ex 35:2) 2. Those who "worked" on the Sabbath were killed (Num 15:32-36) a. Such as the man who wilfully and rebelliously gathered sticks 3. The Law of the Sabbath was defined a. As NOT doing everyday COMMON chores 4. But the Pharisees set about to define THEIR definition of work a. In the most general sense, the numerous Sabbath laws are an expanding network of minute details deriving from several basic concepts, which eventually create an almost Gothic structure made up of thousands upon thousands of tiny and meticulously fashioned details clustered around an original form. (Adin Steinsaltz‘s The Essential Talmud) 5. They determined that Jesus‘ disciples WERE working a. That "plucking the ears of the grain (corn)" was "harvesting" b. To rub them between your hands to separate the chaff was "milling" c. To blow away the chaff from you hand was "winnowing" 6. Legalists often ADD to the Word of God a. Called GEZERAH – adding fences around the Torah b. With no doubt well-intentioned reasons at first 7. But all too often the line becomes blurred a. Between God‘s Word and man‘s rules b. And NO distinction is ultimately made between the two 8. Legalists then become self-righteously indignant a. Believing that a violation of THEIR rules b. Is in fact a violation of God‘s Word 1. What is the law of the Sabbath (Ex 20:8-11)
a. Work shall be done for six days, but the seventh day shall be a holy day for you, a Sabbath of rest to the LORD. Whoever does any work on it shall be put to death (Ex 35:2)
2. Those who “worked” on the Sabbath were killed (Num 15:32-36)
a. Such as the man who wilfully and rebelliously gathered sticks
3. The Law of the Sabbath was defined
a. As NOT doing everyday COMMON chores
4. But the Pharisees set about to define THEIR definition of work
a. In the most general sense, the numerous Sabbath laws are an expanding network of minute details deriving from several basic concepts, which eventually create an almost Gothic structure made up of thousands upon thousands of tiny and meticulously fashioned details clustered around an original form. (Adin Steinsaltz‘s The Essential Talmud)
5. They determined that Jesus‘ disciples WERE working
a. That “plucking the ears of the grain (corn)” was “harvesting”
b. To rub them between your hands to separate the chaff was “milling”
c. To blow away the chaff from you hand was “winnowing”
6. Legalists often ADD to the Word of God
a. Called GEZERAH – adding fences around the Torah
b. With no doubt well-intentioned reasons at first
7. But all too often the line becomes blurred
a. Between God‘s Word and man‘s rules
b. And NO distinction is ultimately made between the two
8. Legalists then become self-righteously indignant
a. Believing that a violation of THEIR rules
b. Is in fact a violation of God‘s Word

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Comment on Matthew 12: 1 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-1#comment-13779 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:38:50 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew12-1#comment-13779 1. Jesus‘ disciples are HUNGRY on the Sabbath a. And begin eating some grain (or corn) 2. They do NOT technically violate the Mosaic Law a. When you come into your neighbor's standing grain, you may pluck the heads with your hand, but you shall not use a sickle on your neighbor's standing grain (Deut 23:25) 1. Jesus‘ disciples are HUNGRY on the Sabbath
a. And begin eating some grain (or corn)
2. They do NOT technically violate the Mosaic Law
a. When you come into your neighbor’s standing grain, you may pluck the heads with your hand, but you shall not use a sickle on your neighbor’s standing grain (Deut 23:25)

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Comment on Psalms 8: 4 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/psalms8-4#comment-13778 TIUCHE Mon, 06 Feb 2012 09:26:53 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/psalms8-4#comment-13778 "Man is...grander than death, too grand for it-that is the freedom of his head. Grander than life, too grand for it-that is the piety in his heart." -Thomas Mann (1875-1955), German writer. There is a saying in my country "Higit sa Lahat ay Tao" or Most of all Man is more important than anything! Man is so important in God's eyes. Man is more important than the Laws, or the systems, or death or life-God made man His priority. That is why God said we should understand well His Word "I will have mercy and not sacrifice!" The Law was made for the benefits of man-for his good! Man made in the image of God- though lower than the angels now, but someday will rule over these angels. God have given man the privilege and the power to become His sons and daughters! Man the writer of Psalm is asking God about himself "What is man that thou art mindful of him?" “Man is…grander than death, too grand for it-that is the freedom of his head. Grander than life, too grand for it-that is the piety in his heart.”
-Thomas Mann (1875-1955), German writer.

There is a saying in my country “Higit sa Lahat ay Tao” or Most of all Man is more important than anything!

Man is so important in God’s eyes. Man is more important than the Laws, or the systems, or death or life-God made man His priority. That is why God said we should understand well His Word “I will have mercy and not sacrifice!” The Law was made for the benefits of man-for his good!

Man made in the image of God- though lower than the angels now, but someday will rule over these angels. God have given man the privilege and the power to become His sons and daughters!

Man the writer of Psalm is asking God about himself “What is man that thou art mindful of him?”

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Comment on Proverbs 5: 18 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/proverbs5-18#comment-13777 TIUCHE Mon, 06 Feb 2012 08:57:38 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/proverbs5-18#comment-13777 TELL IT TO KING SOLOMON Roland G.: You interpreted proverb 5:18 as :Rejoice in the wife you are married to. Do not seek to add other wives. My comment:Tell that to the author of proverbs 5:18 -King Solomon who had one thousand wives! TELL IT TO KING SOLOMON

Roland G.: You interpreted proverb 5:18 as :Rejoice in the wife you are married to. Do not seek to add other wives.

My comment:Tell that to the author of proverbs 5:18 -King Solomon who had one thousand wives!

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Comment on Matthew 11: 26 by Cleopas http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew11-26#comment-13776 Cleopas Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:28:36 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew11-26#comment-13776 I do for he said donT be concernd I do for he said donT be concernd

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Comment on Matthew 11: 30 by Cleopas http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew11-30#comment-13775 Cleopas Mon, 06 Feb 2012 01:13:34 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew11-30#comment-13775 Jesus's yoke is Jesus’s yoke is

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Comment on 1 Corinthians 13: 10 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/1-corinthians13-10#comment-13774 Tractorman Mon, 06 Feb 2012 00:06:02 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/1-corinthians13-10#comment-13774 @ reyes - I believe MUCH happened in 70AD, but I don't believe 'that which is perfect' refers to 70AD... or to the completion of scripture. Keep reading and think about this... The end of verse 12 reads: "but then (then that which is perfect is come) shall I know (epiginosko) even as also I am known (epiginosko)" In the Greek, it reads "but then shall I possess a FULL and COMPLETE KNOWLEDGE by EXPERIENCE even as also I am known in a FULL and COMPLETE manner by EXPERIENCE". I do NOT believe this occurred in 70AD nor at the completion of the canon... I do NOT have a full and complete knowledge (of much of ANYTHING actually in my Christian walk) let alone by EXPERIENCE... This appears to refer more so to the ETERNAL state... I know this verse is oft used by CESSATIONISTS to make their case that the 'charismatic sign-gifts' ceased with the completion of the canon... but I don't believe the case can be made in view of Verse 12... Now, whether what we are seeing in charismatic churches today qualifies as the biblical exercise of said gifts is HIGHLY questionable, but that for another time... Just my $.02 @ reyes - I believe MUCH happened in 70AD, but I don’t believe ‘that which is perfect’ refers to 70AD… or to the completion of scripture.

Keep reading and think about this…

The end of verse 12 reads: “but then (then that which is perfect is come) shall I know (epiginosko) even as also I am known (epiginosko)”

In the Greek, it reads “but then shall I possess a FULL and COMPLETE KNOWLEDGE by EXPERIENCE even as also I am known in a FULL and COMPLETE manner by EXPERIENCE”.

I do NOT believe this occurred in 70AD nor at the completion of the canon… I do NOT have a full and complete knowledge (of much of ANYTHING actually in my Christian walk) let alone by EXPERIENCE…

This appears to refer more so to the ETERNAL state… I know this verse is oft used by CESSATIONISTS to make their case that the ‘charismatic sign-gifts’ ceased with the completion of the canon… but I don’t believe the case can be made in view of Verse 12…

Now, whether what we are seeing in charismatic churches today qualifies as the biblical exercise of said gifts is HIGHLY questionable, but that for another time…

Just my $.02

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Comment on Genesis 9: 5 by Tractorman http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/genesis9-5#comment-13773 Tractorman Sun, 05 Feb 2012 23:42:42 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/genesis9-5#comment-13773 @ trudy - I believe the simply answer is that God is that those who murder (whether human or wild animal) are required to forfeit their OWN lives. The New Living Translation reads a bit easier: And I will require the blood of anyone who takes another person's life. If a wild animal kills a person, it must die. And anyone who murders a fellow human must die. Capital punishment was required for murderers. Hope this helped. @ trudy - I believe the simply answer is that God is that those who murder (whether human or wild animal) are required to forfeit their OWN lives.

The New Living Translation reads a bit easier:

And I will require the blood of anyone who takes another person’s life. If a wild animal kills a person, it must die. And anyone who murders a fellow human must die.

Capital punishment was required for murderers.

Hope this helped.

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Comment on Genesis 9: 5 by trudy green http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/genesis9-5#comment-13772 trudy green Sun, 05 Feb 2012 22:32:19 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/genesis9-5#comment-13772 Please help me to understand what this scripture is saying. Thank You. Please help me to understand what this scripture is saying. Thank You.

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Comment on Genesis 9: 5 by trudy green http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/genesis9-5#comment-13771 trudy green Sun, 05 Feb 2012 22:31:03 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/genesis9-5#comment-13771 what is the meaning to Gen.9:5? I'm not sure I'm understanding what I'm reading. Thank You. what is the meaning to Gen.9:5? I’m not sure I’m understanding what I’m reading. Thank You.

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Comment on John 1: 1 by TSnow http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/john1-1#comment-13770 TSnow Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:51:11 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/john1-1#comment-13770 Post #163, Candace: Looking once again at Col.2:9, w/in the context of these words, what the apostle is telling his readers is, "If anyone is teaching Jesus Christ IS NOT God in bodily form, don't listen to them - don't be led astray by that teaching." And why does Jesus have a God? God came here to show us we are dependent on God. You are being lifted to the throne of grace by many. Post #163, Candace: Looking once again at Col.2:9, w/in the context of these words, what the apostle is telling his readers is, “If anyone is teaching Jesus Christ IS NOT God in bodily form, don’t listen to them - don’t be led astray by that teaching.”
And why does Jesus have a God? God came here to show us we are
dependent on God.
You are being lifted to the throne of grace by many.

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Comment on 1 Corinthians 13: 10 by Reyes http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/1-corinthians13-10#comment-13769 Reyes Sun, 05 Feb 2012 19:16:27 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/1-corinthians13-10#comment-13769 70AD all things came to an end, the perfect that came was our Lord in spirit. 70AD all things came to an end, the perfect that came was our Lord in spirit.

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Comment on Numbers 15: 32 by Roland G http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/numbers15-32#comment-13768 Roland G Sun, 05 Feb 2012 17:37:35 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/numbers15-32#comment-13768 Celeste (Post #1): The man acted defiantly, deliberately disobeying God’s Sabbath Law on purpose (v.31). Moses and Aaron took the man into protection because they were not certain he should receive the death penalty (v.34). But, God saw inside the man’s soul and told Moses to stone him (v.35). God judged the man rightly. Celeste (Post #1): The man acted defiantly, deliberately disobeying God’s Sabbath Law on purpose (v.31). Moses and Aaron took the man into protection because they were not certain he should receive the death penalty (v.34). But, God saw inside the man’s soul and told Moses to stone him (v.35). God judged the man rightly.

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Comment on Numbers 15: 32 by Celeste http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/numbers15-32#comment-13767 Celeste Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:57:40 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/numbers15-32#comment-13767 Why God told Moses they should stone the man who was gathering sticks on the sabbath? Jesus said the life of a man is thousands times worthy than the Sabbath! Why God told Moses they should stone the man who was gathering sticks on the sabbath? Jesus said the life of a man is thousands times worthy than the Sabbath!

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Comment on Titus 1: 10 by Roland G http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/titus1-10#comment-13766 Roland G Sun, 05 Feb 2012 16:31:01 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/titus1-10#comment-13766 Legalistic Jews were among the false teachers in Crete. They refused to obey God’s Word. They listened to no one but themselves. They acted independent, insubordinate, not subject to anyone. They would tell lies by teaching that Gentile believers had to follow Jewish customs, for example, eat kosher foods; go to have someone circumcise them. They taught Jewish fables and commandments of men leading many away from the truth of God’s Word. Legalistic Jews were among the false teachers in Crete. They refused to obey God’s Word. They listened to no one but themselves. They acted independent, insubordinate, not subject to anyone. They would tell lies by teaching that Gentile believers had to follow Jewish customs, for example, eat kosher foods; go to have someone circumcise them. They taught Jewish fables and commandments of men leading many away from the truth of God’s Word.

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Comment on Titus 1: 10 by Roland G http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/titus1-10#comment-13765 Roland G Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:54:50 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/titus1-10#comment-13765 Tiuche (Post #1): This verse has nothing to do with CON men or deception of little children. Tiuche (Post #1): This verse has nothing to do with CON men or deception of little children.

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Comment on Proverbs 5: 18 by Roland G http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/proverbs5-18#comment-13764 Roland G Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:47:50 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/proverbs5-18#comment-13764 Tiuche (Post #2): “....rejoice beginning with the wife of thy youth.” A few observations: 1. "Beginning" is not part of the Hebrew text. 2. "Beginning" is not implied by the text. 3. "Beginning" is never used by Bible scholars. I would post the Hebrew Text with analysis but you have told me you neither read Hebrew nor Greek. So, below are just some of the current published translations of the Holy Bible from Hebrew scholars: a. "...rejoice in the wife of thy youth." ASV (Amer. Std. Version) b. "...have joy in the wife of your early years." BBE (Basic Eng. Bible) c. "...find joy in her" [i.e. the wife of your youth]. CJB (Jewish Bible) d. "...have joy of the wife of your youth." CSB (Christian Std. Bible) e. "...have joy of the wife of they youth." DBY (English Darby Bible) f. "...rejoice with the wife of thy youth." DRA (Douay Rheims Amer. Ed.) g. "...rejoice in the wife of thy youth." ERV (English Rev. Version) h. "...rejoice in the wife of your youth." ESV (English Std. Version) i. "...rejoice with the wife of thy youth." GNV (Geneva Bible) j. "...enjoy the girl you married when you were young." GWN (God's Word) k. "...have joy of the wife of thy youth." JPS (Jewish Pub. Society) l. "...rejoice with the wife of thy youth." KJV (King James Version) m. "...rejoice with the wife of thy youth." LXA (Septuagint w/Apocrypha) n. "...rejoice with the wife of they youth." LXE (Septuagint English) o. "...rejoice in the wife of your youth." NAS (New American Std, 1977) p. "...rejoice in the wife of your youth." NIV/NIB (Th New Int'l Version) q. "...May the wife you married when you were young make you happy." NIRV (New Int'l Reader's Version) r. "...Find joy with the wife you married in your youth." NJB (New Jerusalem Bible) s. "...rejoice in the wife of your youth." NLT (New Living Translation) t. "...rejoice in the wife of your youth." NRS (New Revised Std. Ver.) u. "...rejoice in the wife of your youth." RSV (Revised Std. Ver.) v. "...rejoice with the wife of your youth." RWB (Revised Webster) w. "...rejoice in the wife of your youth." TNIV (Todays New Int'l Ver.) x. "...find joy in the wife of your youth." JPS TANAKH y. "...rejoice with the wife of thy youth." WEB (English Noah Webster) z. "...rejoice because of the wife of thy youth." YLT (Young's Literal Translation) Rejoice in the wife you are married to. Do not seek to add other wives. Tiuche (Post #2): “….rejoice beginning with the wife of thy youth.”

A few observations:

1. “Beginning” is not part of the Hebrew text.
2. “Beginning” is not implied by the text.
3. “Beginning” is never used by Bible scholars.

I would post the Hebrew Text with analysis but you have told me you neither read Hebrew nor Greek. So, below are just some of the current published translations of the Holy Bible from Hebrew scholars:

a. “…rejoice in the wife of thy youth.” ASV (Amer. Std. Version)
b. “…have joy in the wife of your early years.” BBE (Basic Eng. Bible)
c. “…find joy in her” [i.e. the wife of your youth]. CJB (Jewish Bible)
d. “…have joy of the wife of your youth.” CSB (Christian Std. Bible)
e. “…have joy of the wife of they youth.” DBY (English Darby Bible)
f. “…rejoice with the wife of thy youth.” DRA (Douay Rheims Amer. Ed.)
g. “…rejoice in the wife of thy youth.” ERV (English Rev. Version)
h. “…rejoice in the wife of your youth.” ESV (English Std. Version)
i. “…rejoice with the wife of thy youth.” GNV (Geneva Bible)
j. “…enjoy the girl you married when you were young.” GWN (God’s Word)
k. “…have joy of the wife of thy youth.” JPS (Jewish Pub. Society)
l. “…rejoice with the wife of thy youth.” KJV (King James Version)
m. “…rejoice with the wife of thy youth.” LXA (Septuagint w/Apocrypha)
n. “…rejoice with the wife of they youth.” LXE (Septuagint English)
o. “…rejoice in the wife of your youth.” NAS (New American Std, 1977)
p. “…rejoice in the wife of your youth.” NIV/NIB (Th New Int’l Version)
q. “…May the wife you married when you were young make you happy.” NIRV (New Int’l Reader’s Version)
r. “…Find joy with the wife you married in your youth.” NJB (New Jerusalem Bible)
s. “…rejoice in the wife of your youth.” NLT (New Living Translation)
t. “…rejoice in the wife of your youth.” NRS (New Revised Std. Ver.)
u. “…rejoice in the wife of your youth.” RSV (Revised Std. Ver.)
v. “…rejoice with the wife of your youth.” RWB (Revised Webster)
w. “…rejoice in the wife of your youth.” TNIV (Todays New Int’l Ver.)
x. “…find joy in the wife of your youth.” JPS TANAKH
y. “…rejoice with the wife of thy youth.” WEB (English Noah Webster)
z. “…rejoice because of the wife of thy youth.” YLT (Young’s Literal Translation)

Rejoice in the wife you are married to. Do not seek to add other wives.

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Comment on Titus 1: 10 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/titus1-10#comment-13763 TIUCHE Sun, 05 Feb 2012 13:12:26 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/titus1-10#comment-13763 CON MEN SPEAKING NICELY TO DECEIVE, ACTING LIKE THEY LOVE THE CHILDREN...giving the poor little children slippers while they con the parents of these children by giving them very low salaries! If you do not know the behind the scene stories behind their every propaganda to make them smell & look good would be believable. But once you know that the people behind the deceptions of the ordinary were big time businessmen who swindle the parents of the children with proper pay, you would get angry when you see them act like they are philanthropist...observe them and their malicious acts! CON MEN SPEAKING NICELY TO DECEIVE, ACTING LIKE THEY LOVE THE CHILDREN…giving the poor little children slippers while they con the parents of these children by giving them very low salaries! If you do not know the behind the scene stories behind their every propaganda to make them smell & look good would be believable. But once you know that the people behind the deceptions of the ordinary were big time businessmen who swindle the parents of the children with proper pay, you would get angry when you see them act like they are philanthropist…observe them and their malicious acts!

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Comment on Proverbs 5: 18 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/proverbs5-18#comment-13762 TIUCHE Sun, 05 Feb 2012 12:18:14 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/proverbs5-18#comment-13762 Proverbs 5:18 Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice from the wife of thy youth. source:http://www.christianmarriage.com/home/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=134 Brothers and sisters in Christ, we have been misled. The preposition that occurs before "the wife" in the above sentence is NOT "with"! It is as I have written above, "from" as in the sentence "He ate the entire menu from steak to string beans." To put it another way, "He ate the entire menu beginning with steak all the way to string beans." In other words, it means "beginning with" so that a better translation in modern English would be: "Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice beginning with the wife of thy youth." Keep in mind that Solomon had just been warning in verses 3-17 against going with whores and now he is contrasting that a man must instead rejoice, i.e., take pleasure in, his wives, beginning with the wife of his youth, i.e., his first wife. There is absolutely no emphasis in the original verse on any exlusivity to a first wife because the word "with" does not even occur in the Hebrew. The word is "from" as in, "beginning with." I discovered this in my Anderson Forbes Phrase Marker Analysis of the Hebrew Bible. Do not be fooled. One wife and one wife only is NEVER taught in the Bible. It's impossible not to SEE the implication in the sentence when it is properly translated. "rejoice beginning with the wife of thy youth...." till the wife you take when you're an old guy. Proverbs 5:18 Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice from the wife of thy youth.
source:http://www.christianmarriage.com/home/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=134

Brothers and sisters in Christ, we have been misled. The preposition that occurs before “the wife” in the above sentence is NOT “with”! It is as I have written above, “from” as in the sentence “He ate the entire menu from steak to string beans.” To put it another way, “He ate the entire menu beginning with steak all the way to string beans.”

In other words, it means “beginning with” so that a better translation in modern English would be:
“Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice beginning with the wife of thy youth.”
Keep in mind that Solomon had just been warning in verses 3-17 against going with whores and now he is contrasting that a man must instead rejoice, i.e., take pleasure in, his wives, beginning with the wife of his youth, i.e., his first wife. There is absolutely no emphasis in the original verse on any exlusivity to a first wife because the word “with” does not even occur in the Hebrew. The word is “from” as in, “beginning with.” I discovered this in my Anderson Forbes Phrase Marker Analysis of the Hebrew Bible. Do not be fooled. One wife and one wife only is NEVER taught in the Bible.

It’s impossible not to SEE the implication in the sentence when it is properly translated. “rejoice beginning with the wife of thy youth….” till the wife you take when you’re an old guy.

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Comment on Hosea 2: 19 by Roland G http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/hosea2-19#comment-13761 Roland G Sun, 05 Feb 2012 10:13:39 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/hosea2-19#comment-13761 Vedamamuni (Posts #1, #2): Namaste! God is saying to the nation of Israel in the Northern Kingdom, and by implication to His body, the Church, that He will always be loyal, loving, and faithful as a husband should be to His wife. The nation of Israel had been unfaithful. Yet, God continued to perform His headship over them with deepest love and fullest devotion. The unfaithfulness of Gomer to Hosea parallels the unfaithfulness of the nation of Israel to God. The faithfulness of Hosea to Gomer parallels the faithfulness of God to the nation of Israel. God is always faithful to His body, the Church. He is in a permanent, irrevocable union with each believer in salvation through the LORD Jesus Christ. God lives inside each believer. He cannot deny Himself. So, He is faithful when we are faithless (2 Tim. 2:13). God punished the nation of Israel. This had to do with the perfect character of God. God’s perfect Goodness for violating His Divine laws demanded punishment. God’s Justice carried it out. And, so it is with each member of His body, the Church. When a believer is unfaithful and fails to ask for forgiveness or repent God’s perfect Goodness demands punishment. His justice carries it out. Whom the LORD loves He chastens and scourges every son whom he receives (Heb. 12:6). But, if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9). God loves you. He wants a close personal connection with every believer. He wants every believer who has been unfaithful to return to Him. ______________________________ Read throug Psalm 139:1-18. Then, click on the link below to listen and read through some of God's promises for you. http://www.365promises.com/promise-videos/ Prayer was lifted on your behalf. Vedamamuni (Posts #1, #2): Namaste!

God is saying to the nation of Israel in the Northern Kingdom, and by implication to His body, the Church, that He will always be loyal, loving, and faithful as a husband should be to His wife.

The nation of Israel had been unfaithful. Yet, God continued to perform His headship over them with deepest love and fullest devotion.

The unfaithfulness of Gomer to Hosea parallels the unfaithfulness of the nation of Israel to God. The faithfulness of Hosea to Gomer parallels the faithfulness of God to the nation of Israel.

God is always faithful to His body, the Church. He is in a permanent, irrevocable union with each believer in salvation through the LORD Jesus Christ. God lives inside each believer. He cannot deny Himself. So, He is faithful when we are faithless (2 Tim. 2:13).

God punished the nation of Israel. This had to do with the perfect character of God. God’s perfect Goodness for violating His Divine laws demanded punishment. God’s Justice carried it out.

And, so it is with each member of His body, the Church. When a believer is unfaithful and fails to ask for forgiveness or repent God’s perfect Goodness demands punishment. His justice carries it out. Whom the LORD loves He chastens and scourges every son whom he receives (Heb. 12:6). But, if we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9).

God loves you. He wants a close personal connection with every believer. He wants every believer who has been unfaithful to return to Him.

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Read throug Psalm 139:1-18. Then, click on the link below to listen and read through some of God’s promises for you.

http://www.365promises.com/promise-videos/

Prayer was lifted on your behalf.

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Comment on Hosea 2: 19 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/hosea2-19#comment-13760 TIUCHE Sun, 05 Feb 2012 01:18:35 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/hosea2-19#comment-13760 VEDAMAMUNI: Welcome to vbvbc! 1). I will tell you the PLAIN truth about this verse but will you accept it? 2). Would you rather that a "SALESMAN" tickle your ears to tell you what the popular teaching is? 3). What prayer to God do you want us to pray for you? What is your problem or need? VEDAMAMUNI: Welcome to vbvbc!
1). I will tell you the PLAIN truth about this verse but will you accept it?
2). Would you rather that a “SALESMAN” tickle your ears to tell you what the popular teaching is?
3). What prayer to God do you want us to pray for you? What is your problem or need?

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Comment on Deuteronomy 21: 15 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/deuteronomy21-15#comment-13759 TIUCHE Sun, 05 Feb 2012 01:04:40 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/deuteronomy21-15#comment-13759 Roland G. Are you playing dumb? I doubt if you really are a believer of the Bible.I REPEAT WHAT I SAID : You ARE GLOSSING OVER WHAT IS PLAIN IN THE VERY VERSE WE ARE COMMENTING DEUTERONOMY 21:15 TO FAVOR YOUR SHOULD BE MONOGAMY FOR ALL men"... the doctrine of devils! Will you please address that comment! As you always said focus on the text my friend-focus on the text-but you are HOCUS POCUSING this verse & that comment! Are you an alien that could not understand English? Is an alien and a devil the same? Are you a wolf in disguise as a lamb? If you gloss over all that I speak to you and even what the verse is telling us, you are indeed an alien. Our CONversation is useless! And one more thing YOU ARE A GREAT FAN of worldly government and in awe of those man made systems, do you what that means? If you gloss over those questions which my purpose is to bring your darkened mind captive towards the TRUTH, then you are indeed an Alien....and no amount of right Words could convince you that you are simple! But I believe you are not simple instead like Charles you are just playing BLIND MAN BLUFF- you are playing DUMB when you can understand plainly what is being said! Roland G. Are you playing dumb? I doubt if you really are a believer of the Bible.I REPEAT WHAT I SAID : You ARE GLOSSING OVER WHAT IS PLAIN IN THE VERY VERSE WE ARE COMMENTING DEUTERONOMY 21:15 TO FAVOR YOUR SHOULD BE MONOGAMY FOR ALL men”… the doctrine of devils!

Will you please address that comment! As you always said focus on the text my friend-focus on the text-but you are HOCUS POCUSING this verse & that comment!

Are you an alien that could not understand English? Is an alien and a devil the same? Are you a wolf in disguise as a lamb? If you gloss over all that I speak to you and even what the verse is telling us, you are indeed an alien. Our CONversation is useless!

And one more thing YOU ARE A GREAT FAN of worldly government and in awe of those man made systems, do you what that means?

If you gloss over those questions which my purpose is to bring your darkened mind captive towards the TRUTH, then you are indeed an Alien….and no amount of right Words could convince you that you are simple! But I believe you are not simple instead like Charles you are just playing BLIND MAN BLUFF- you are playing DUMB when you can understand plainly what is being said!

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Comment on Deuteronomy 21: 15 by Roland G http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/deuteronomy21-15#comment-13758 Roland G Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:36:08 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/deuteronomy21-15#comment-13758 Tiuche (Post #9): My posted commentary #2 is accurate and consistent with the Word of God. All verses must be interpreted in light of what was happening historically at the time the text was written. Side Note: Why you as a professed Christian would promote a polygamy agenda (illegal in your country) and marriage to under-aged little girls when they reach puberty (as early as 7 to 8 years of age, but generally between 10-14 years)--also illegal in your country--is beyond my comprehension. Governments and agencies around the world seek to protect children from child abuse, child predators and child trafficking. Every country imposes minimum marriage age requirements for those reasons. Tiuche (Post #9): My posted commentary #2 is accurate and consistent with the Word of God. All verses must be interpreted in light of what was happening historically at the time the text was written.

Side Note: Why you as a professed Christian would promote a polygamy agenda (illegal in your country) and marriage to under-aged little girls when they reach puberty (as early as 7 to 8 years of age, but generally between 10-14 years)–also illegal in your country–is beyond my comprehension. Governments and agencies around the world seek to protect children from child abuse, child predators and child trafficking. Every country imposes minimum marriage age requirements for those reasons.

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Comment on Hosea 2: 19 by VEDAMAMUNI http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/hosea2-19#comment-13757 VEDAMAMUNI Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:32:07 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/hosea2-19#comment-13757 Greetings to you in the name of our Lod and saviour Jesus Christ. Sri, I am an Indian. i want to know more about the detail meaning for this :Hosea 2:19, 20. pls answer commentry of this. Pls., pray for me. Thanks for your co-operation God Bless Greetings to you in the name of our Lod and saviour Jesus Christ. Sri, I am an Indian.

i want to know more about the detail meaning for this :Hosea 2:19, 20. pls answer commentry of this.
Pls., pray for me.

Thanks for your co-operation

God Bless

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Comment on Hosea 2: 19 by VEDAMAMUNI http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/hosea2-19#comment-13756 VEDAMAMUNI Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:30:58 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/hosea2-19#comment-13756 Greetings to you in the name of our Lod and saviour Jesus Christ. Sri, I am an Indian. i want to know more about the detail meaning for this :Hosea 2:19, 20. pls answer commentry of this. Pls., pray for me. Thanks for your co-operation God Bless Greetings to you in the name of our Lod and saviour Jesus Christ. Sri, I am an Indian.

i want to know more about the detail meaning for this :Hosea 2:19, 20. pls answer commentry of this.
Pls., pray for me.

Thanks for your co-operation

God Bless

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Comment on John 3: 14 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/john3-14#comment-13755 TIUCHE Sat, 04 Feb 2012 16:35:24 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/john3-14#comment-13755 IN THIS VERSE JESUS HIMSELF INFORMS EVERYONE THAT HIS CRUCIFIXION AS THE MESSIAH HAD LONG BEEN FORESHADOWED HUNDRED OR THOUSAND OF YEARS BEFORE... Contrary to some teachings that Jesus did not know His mission when He first came to earth, we see that many things that happened to Him during the New Testament times were foretold in the Old Testament and that includes His being lifted up as a BANNER for Salvation for the people!" Numbers 21:8 The LORD said to Moses, "Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live." Numbers 21:9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, he lived. Isaiah 11:10 In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his place of rest will be glorious. John 8:28 So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am [the one I claim to be] and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me. John 12:32 But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself." John 12:34 The crowd spoke up, "We have heard from the Law that the Christ will remain forever, so how can you say, 'The Son of Man must be lifted up'? Who is this 'Son of Man'?" John 18:32 This happened so that the words Jesus had spoken indicating the kind of death he was going to die would be fulfilled. IN THIS VERSE JESUS HIMSELF INFORMS EVERYONE THAT HIS CRUCIFIXION AS THE MESSIAH HAD LONG BEEN FORESHADOWED HUNDRED OR THOUSAND OF YEARS BEFORE…

Contrary to some teachings that Jesus did not know His mission when He first came to earth, we see that many things that happened to Him during the New Testament times were foretold in the Old Testament and that includes His being lifted up as a BANNER for Salvation for the people!”

Numbers 21:8 The LORD said to Moses, “Make a snake and put it up on a pole; anyone who is bitten can look at it and live.”

Numbers 21:9 So Moses made a bronze snake and put it up on a pole. Then when anyone was bitten by a snake and looked at the bronze snake, he lived.

Isaiah 11:10 In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his place of rest will be glorious.

John 8:28 So Jesus said, “When you have lifted up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am [the one I claim to be] and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me.

John 12:32 But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself.”

John 12:34 The crowd spoke up, “We have heard from the Law that the Christ will remain forever, so how can you say, ‘The Son of Man must be lifted up’? Who is this ‘Son of Man’?”

John 18:32 This happened so that the words Jesus had spoken indicating the kind of death he was going to die would be fulfilled.

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Comment on Luke 9: 23 by JayC http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/luke9-23#comment-13754 JayC Sat, 04 Feb 2012 15:38:08 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/luke9-23#comment-13754 Okay...please forgive my directness but, except for the first comment to my question, the balance of these "answers" are both out of context and foolish. As a Christian, I know what the Bible, and my God, say about salvation and my Christ, Jesus. It is, of course, the chronology of events, in Luke 9:23, that are not clear to me and no amount of prosleytizing is going to make them any clearer. Crucifying was a sentence intended for the worst of criminals. Even though Jesus said He would be leaving soon to be with His Father to be crucified would not have been a reasonable end...even stoning, as Stephen was, would have been thought of as more appropriate. Jesus, of course, was foretelling the method of His death but how the disciples could of understood that, until later, is beyond me and apparently beyond all readers of this question. I imagine it was an enormous revelation to Peter, John and the other disciples, once they had a chance to consider Jesus' words in context, (after His crucifixion). If you want to say, "We will have to wait until heaven to get the answer", that's just fine. As far as all the responders, except for Mr. Dale of course, please review what the Bible says about foolishness, (pretty much all of Proverbs), and a loose tongue (James 1:26) and consider, for a moment, that a non-Christian might actually come to this site, and this question, for an answer. Your answers would simply confirm what the world already thinks about the majority of Christians; we are blind followers of a book we do not understand and cannot explain...thus you would be a stumbling block. To paraphrase Daniel Webster; the definition of a word, that includes the word, is not a definition. Jay's corollary to that, "an explanation of a Biblical event, that includes the event as the explanation, is not an explanation!" This is a comment. Okay…please forgive my directness but, except for the first comment to my question, the balance of these “answers” are both out of context and foolish. As a Christian, I know what the Bible, and my God, say about salvation and my Christ, Jesus. It is, of course, the chronology of events, in Luke 9:23, that are not clear to me and no amount of prosleytizing is going to make them any clearer. Crucifying was a sentence intended for the worst of criminals. Even though Jesus said He would be leaving soon to be with His Father to be crucified would not have been a reasonable end…even stoning, as Stephen was, would have been thought of as more appropriate. Jesus, of course, was foretelling the method of His death but how the disciples could of understood that, until later, is beyond me and apparently beyond all readers of this question. I imagine it was an enormous revelation to Peter, John and the other disciples, once they had a chance to consider Jesus’ words in context, (after His crucifixion). If you want to say, “We will have to wait until heaven to get the answer”, that’s just fine. As far as all the responders, except for Mr. Dale of course, please review what the Bible says about foolishness, (pretty much all of Proverbs), and a loose tongue (James 1:26) and consider, for a moment, that a non-Christian might actually come to this site, and this question, for an answer. Your answers would simply confirm what the world already thinks about the majority of Christians; we are blind followers of a book we do not understand and cannot explain…thus you would be a stumbling block. To paraphrase Daniel Webster; the definition of a word, that includes the word, is not a definition. Jay’s corollary to that, “an explanation of a Biblical event, that includes the event as the explanation, is not an explanation!” This is a comment.

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Comment on Romans 14: 10 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/romans14-10#comment-13753 TIUCHE Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:23:35 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/romans14-10#comment-13753 THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SETTING YOUR BROTHERS AT NAUGHT AND THE PUTTING OF BABES IN THEIR PLACE Some would think that I am harsh toward babes in the faith. But discipline should be given to babes who does not know what they are doing and behaving like they know better! It is hard on the part of an elder in the faith to "spank" a wayward or puff up babe who thinks he is spiritually mature when he is not. But an elder brother should discipline them...lest these babes takes the reins and cause the seeds not to grow because of their childish ways and comments and meddling! On the other hand setting your brothers at naught means that we despise, treat with hatred a brother in Christ w/o respect not even thinking that through your word such a brother or sister might be offended as a believer and cease to follow the Lord. Although sometimes the difference could be hairline...it takes prayer and discernment to see the difference between the two. And an advise to babes if indeed you are Christ lambs: Hebrew 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you. Psalm 131:1 LORD, my heart is not haughty, nor my eyes lofty: neither do I exercise myself in great matters, or in things too high for me. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SETTING YOUR BROTHERS AT NAUGHT AND THE PUTTING OF BABES IN THEIR PLACE

Some would think that I am harsh toward babes in the faith. But discipline should be given to babes who does not know what they are doing and behaving like they know better! It is hard on the part of an elder in the faith to “spank” a wayward or puff up babe who thinks he is spiritually mature when he is not. But an elder brother should discipline them…lest these babes takes the reins and cause the seeds not to grow because of their childish ways and comments and meddling!

On the other hand setting your brothers at naught means that we despise, treat with hatred a brother in Christ w/o respect not even thinking that through your word such a brother or sister might be offended as a believer and cease to follow the Lord. Although sometimes the difference could be hairline…it takes prayer and discernment to see the difference between the two.

And an advise to babes if indeed you are Christ lambs:

Hebrew 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Psalm 131:1 LORD, my heart is not haughty, nor my eyes lofty: neither do I exercise myself in great matters, or in things too high for me.

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Comment on Matthew 4: 19 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew4-19#comment-13752 TIUCHE Sat, 04 Feb 2012 12:03:02 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew4-19#comment-13752 SOME THOUGHTS ON FOLLOWING OUR SAVIOR JESUS Source of quotes: http://thegracetabernacle.org/quotes/Self-Denial.htm Just as the sinner’s despair of any hope from himself is the first prerequisite of a sound conversion, so the loss of all confidence in himself is the first essential in the believer’s growth in grace. A.W. Pink Growth in grace is growth downward. It is the forming of a lower estimate of ourselves. It is a deepening realization of our nothingness. It is a heartfelt recognition that we are not worthy of the least of God's mercies. A.W. Pink I have now concentrated all my prayers into one, and that one prayer is this, that I may die to self, and live wholly to Him. C.H. Spurgeon Can you serve your boss and others at work, helping them to succeed and be happy, even when they are promoted and you are overlooked? Can you work to make others look good without envy filling your heart? Can you minister to the needs of those whom God exalts and men honor when you yourself are neglected? Can you pray for the ministry of others to prosper when it would cast yours in the shadows? Donald Whitney There is a great difference between realizing, "On that Cross He was crucified for me," and "On that Cross I am crucified with Him." The one aspect brings us deliverance from sin's condemnation, the other from sin's power. John Gregory Mantle When the will of God crosses the will of man, somebody has to die. Addison Leitch SOME THOUGHTS ON FOLLOWING OUR SAVIOR JESUS
Source of quotes: http://thegracetabernacle.org/quotes/Self-Denial.htm

Just as the sinner’s despair of any hope from himself is the first prerequisite of a sound conversion, so the loss of all confidence in himself is the first essential in the believer’s growth in grace.
A.W. Pink

Growth in grace is growth downward. It is the forming of a lower estimate of ourselves. It is a deepening realization of our nothingness. It is a heartfelt recognition that we are not worthy of the least of God’s mercies.
A.W. Pink

I have now concentrated all my prayers into one, and that one prayer is this, that I may die to self, and live wholly to Him.
C.H. Spurgeon

Can you serve your boss and others at work, helping them to succeed and be happy, even when they are promoted and you are overlooked? Can you work to make others look good without envy filling your heart? Can you minister to the needs of those whom God exalts and men honor when you yourself are neglected? Can you pray for the ministry of others to prosper when it would cast yours in the shadows?
Donald Whitney

There is a great difference between realizing, “On that Cross He was crucified for me,” and “On that Cross I am crucified with Him.” The one aspect brings us deliverance from sin’s condemnation, the other from sin’s power.
John Gregory Mantle

When the will of God crosses the will of man, somebody has to die.

Addison Leitch

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Comment on Luke 9: 23 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/luke9-23#comment-13751 TIUCHE Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:18:31 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/luke9-23#comment-13751 DENYING ONESELF MAKES FOR A MORE FULFILLED LIFE NOW AND... Source of Quote: http://thegracetabernacle.org/quotes/Self-Denial.htm The Christian life is a great paradox. Those who die to self, find self. Those who die to their cravings will receive many times as much in this age, and, in the age to come, eternal life (Luke 18:29). They will find new passions worth living for and dying for. If I crave happiness, I will receive misery. If I crave to be loved, I will receive rejection. If I crave significance, I will receive futility. If I crave control, I will receive chaos. If I crave reputation, I will receive humiliation. But if I long for God and His wisdom and mercy, I will receive God and wisdom and mercy. Along the way, sooner or later, I will also receive happiness, love, meaning, order, and glory. David Powlison Seeing With New Eyes, P&R Publishers, 2003, p. 161. DENYING ONESELF MAKES FOR A MORE FULFILLED LIFE NOW AND…

Source of Quote: http://thegracetabernacle.org/quotes/Self-Denial.htm

The Christian life is a great paradox. Those who die to self, find self. Those who die to their cravings will receive many times as much in this age, and, in the age to come, eternal life (Luke 18:29). They will find new passions worth living for and dying for. If I crave happiness, I will receive misery. If I crave to be loved, I will receive rejection. If I crave significance, I will receive futility. If I crave control, I will receive chaos. If I crave reputation, I will receive humiliation. But if I long for God and His wisdom and mercy, I will receive God and wisdom and mercy. Along the way, sooner or later, I will also receive happiness, love, meaning, order, and glory.

David Powlison
Seeing With New Eyes, P&R Publishers, 2003, p. 161.

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Comment on Isaiah 3: 16 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/isaiah3-16#comment-13750 TIUCHE Sat, 04 Feb 2012 11:09:54 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/isaiah3-16#comment-13750 THE RESULTS OF THE BIG BIG LIE ON MARRIAGE AND FAMILY, and THE PREACHING OF A WATER DOWNED GOSPEL Ecclesiastes 10:16 Woe to you, O land whose king was a servant and whose princes feast in the morning. Isaiah 3:12 Youths oppress my people, women rule over them. O my people, your guides lead you astray; they turn you from the path. Isaiah 3:16 The LORD says, "The women of Zion are haughty, walking along with outstretched necks, flirting with their eyes, tripping along with mincing steps, with ornaments jingling on their ankles. What God would do as a punishment for the modern Jezebels : See Chapter 3 of Isaiah and especially Isaiah 4:1 THE RESULTS OF THE BIG BIG LIE ON MARRIAGE AND FAMILY, and THE PREACHING OF A WATER DOWNED GOSPEL

Ecclesiastes 10:16 Woe to you, O land whose king was a servant and whose princes feast in the morning.

Isaiah 3:12 Youths oppress my people, women rule over them. O my people, your guides lead you astray; they turn you from the path.

Isaiah 3:16 The LORD says, “The women of Zion are haughty, walking along with outstretched necks, flirting with their eyes, tripping along with mincing steps, with ornaments jingling on their ankles.

What God would do as a punishment for the modern Jezebels : See Chapter 3 of Isaiah and especially Isaiah 4:1

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Comment on Proverbs 26: 6 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/proverbs26-6#comment-13749 TIUCHE Sat, 04 Feb 2012 10:51:16 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/proverbs26-6#comment-13749 WHEN GOSPEL ARE PREACHED BY FOOLS and NEWBABE WHAT HAPPENS? In our place, it seems to have become a trend; if your male child have no work but he looks looks, let him become a pastor. So...a lot of them became pastors for money. Young and good looking but lacking in the knowledge of the Bible and experience of life and spiritual matters...they became spiritual leaders. Well, the young girls swooned over their good looking pastors including the old women and married women, they say: AY KAGUAPO GUID YA KY PASTOR BALA MO!(Oh how handsome Pastor is!)...and turning to their old or bad looking husband these ignorant women would say: HOY MAGPAREHAS KA BALA KY PASTOR..DAMO NALUYAG...DIOSNON KAG PRESENTABLE...KAG WALA GA PANG TSIKS! (Hey! Why won't you be like the Pastor.. that many girls swoons over ...godly and very presentable ...and not a womanizer!). Isn't it funny how people look at the outward appearance while God looks on the heart? So these sinners would always resist the Holy Ghost, but they think they are the religious women and excellent godly children they have... Add to the fact that the majority of the people are ignorant of their Bible and their women and these "children: pastors rules over them...what happens? And add another ingredient of old pastors who seems to be an authorities on the Bible but who turns out later as evangelist for money; where does all these mixtures lead to? Add another fact that the marriage system & the family is a lie and is not based on the Bible...with believers thinking they have come our of "HER" but ignorantly just going round and round in the palm of the harlots hands...what do we think true believers should do? "I saw Satan laughing with delight" sang Don Maclean...the prince of the power of the air...have his hands full of his busy work...to deceive here and deceive there...chaos there...chaos here...trouble here and trouble there...and the godly people vexed by all the thorns and briars and wolves surrounding him...making it hard for him... Isaiah 3:12 Youths oppress my people, women rule over them. O My people—infants are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, your guides mislead you and they have swallowed up the course of your... WHEN GOSPEL ARE PREACHED BY FOOLS and NEWBABE WHAT HAPPENS?

In our place, it seems to have become a trend; if your male child have no work but he looks looks, let him become a pastor. So…a lot of them became pastors for money. Young and good looking but lacking in the knowledge of the Bible and experience of life and spiritual matters…they became spiritual leaders. Well, the young girls swooned over their good looking pastors including the old women and married women, they say: AY KAGUAPO GUID YA KY PASTOR BALA MO!(Oh how handsome Pastor is!)…and turning to their old or bad looking husband these ignorant women would say: HOY MAGPAREHAS KA BALA KY PASTOR..DAMO NALUYAG…DIOSNON KAG PRESENTABLE…KAG WALA GA PANG TSIKS! (Hey! Why won’t you be like the Pastor.. that many girls swoons over …godly and very presentable …and not a womanizer!).
Isn’t it funny how people look at the outward appearance while God looks on the heart? So these sinners would always resist the Holy Ghost, but they think they are the religious women and excellent godly children they have…

Add to the fact that the majority of the people are ignorant of their Bible and their women and these “children: pastors rules over them…what happens? And add another ingredient of old pastors who seems to be an authorities on the Bible but who turns out later as evangelist for money; where does all these mixtures lead to?

Add another fact that the marriage system & the family is a lie and is not based on the Bible…with believers thinking they have come our of “HER” but ignorantly just going round and round in the palm of the harlots hands…what do we think true believers should do?

“I saw Satan laughing with delight” sang Don Maclean…the prince of the power of the air…have his hands full of his busy work…to deceive here and deceive there…chaos there…chaos here…trouble here and trouble there…and the godly people vexed by all the thorns and briars and wolves surrounding him…making it hard for him…

Isaiah 3:12 Youths oppress my people, women rule over them. O My people—infants are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, your guides mislead you and they have swallowed up the course of your…

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Comment on Revelation 13: 1 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/revelation13-1#comment-13748 TIUCHE Sat, 04 Feb 2012 09:34:19 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/revelation13-1#comment-13748 THE MAKING OF THE IMAGES OF THE BEAST Since our First parent rebelled against the Government of God and God have left them to form their own government, men have attempted to govern themselves and their surrounding to better their condition. And most often than not, the systems they created turns out to be a copy of the dreaded Beast...instead establishing God's Laws on such a system or systems they establish man made laws to their own detriment. They build roads, buildings, machines and other things... which help them at the start, but as their population grew and they begin to create complicated laws and ways which made life a burden. As the movie narrator in the movie "The gods(rulers) must be crazy) said:" Civilized man refused to adapt himself to his environment; instead, he adapted his environment to suit him. So he built cities, roads, vehicles, machinery, and he put up power lines to run his labour-saving devices. But somehow he didn't know where to stop. The more he improved his surroundings to make life easier, the more complicated he made it. So now his children are sentenced to 10-15 years of school, just to learn how to survive in this complex and hazardous habitat they were born into. And civilized man, who refused to adapt to his surroundings, now finds he has to adapt and re-adapt every hour of the day to his self-created environment. For instance, if it's Monday and 7:30 comes up, you have to dis-adapt from your domestic surroundings and re-adapt yourself to an entirely different environment. 8:00 means everybody has to look busy. 10:30 means you can stop looking busy for 15 minutes. And then you have to look busy again. And so your day is chopped into pieces, and in each segment of time you adapt to a new set circumstances. No wonder some people go off the rails a bit..." Jesus came to save us from complications from our disorderly ways-from our sins-to bring us back to God's Kingdom...but look how men opposes the Laws of God. Blinded men blinded preachers, blinded teachers who does not know what they are talking about attempting to belittle what is plainly told them. How blind people can get, even so called Bible believers! They are unaware of what they are doing...Jesus said: Father forgive them for they do not know what they are doing! But would you believer that they think they know what they are doing? Like little brats insisting on their own ways and folly, these blinded people would insist with their walk. Okay walk on...you think you can see well? Walk on... THE MAKING OF THE IMAGES OF THE BEAST

Since our First parent rebelled against the Government of God and God have left them to form their own government, men have attempted to govern themselves and their surrounding to better their condition. And most often than not, the systems they created turns out to be a copy of the dreaded Beast…instead establishing God’s Laws on such a system or systems they establish man made laws to their own detriment.

They build roads, buildings, machines and other things… which help them at the start, but as their population grew and they begin to create complicated laws and ways which made life a burden.

As the movie narrator in the movie “The gods(rulers) must be crazy) said:” Civilized man refused to adapt himself to his environment; instead, he adapted his environment to suit him. So he built cities, roads, vehicles, machinery, and he put up power lines to run his labour-saving devices. But somehow he didn’t know where to stop. The more he improved his surroundings to make life easier, the more complicated he made it. So now his children are sentenced to 10-15 years of school, just to learn how to survive in this complex and hazardous habitat they were born into. And civilized man, who refused to adapt to his surroundings, now finds he has to adapt and re-adapt every hour of the day to his self-created environment. For instance, if it’s Monday and 7:30 comes up, you have to dis-adapt from your domestic surroundings and re-adapt yourself to an entirely different environment. 8:00 means everybody has to look busy. 10:30 means you can stop looking busy for 15 minutes. And then you have to look busy again. And so your day is chopped into pieces, and in each segment of time you adapt to a new set circumstances. No wonder some people go off the rails a bit…”

Jesus came to save us from complications from our disorderly ways-from our sins-to bring us back to God’s Kingdom…but look how men opposes the Laws of God. Blinded men blinded preachers, blinded teachers who does not know what they are talking about attempting to belittle what is plainly told them. How blind people can get, even so called Bible believers! They are unaware of what they are doing…Jesus said: Father forgive them for they do not know what they are doing!

But would you believer that they think they know what they are doing? Like little brats insisting on their own ways and folly, these blinded people would insist with their walk. Okay walk on…you think you can see well? Walk on…

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Comment on Deuteronomy 21: 15 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/deuteronomy21-15#comment-13747 TIUCHE Sat, 04 Feb 2012 09:04:12 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/deuteronomy21-15#comment-13747 Roland G. You ARE GLOSSING OVER WHAT IS PLAIN IN THE VERY VERSE WE ARE COMMENTING DEUTERONOMY 21:15TO FAVOR YOUR SHOULD BE MONOGAMY FOR ALL men! You know Roland I am like the policeman and you are like the Bushman in the movie The Gods must be Crazy! It is hard to explain to you, for no matter how I try you cannot understand...just ignoring my words like those words are nonsense but I wonder why you act like the Rhino in that movie....every time I start a fiery plant...there you come try stamping it out with your foolish feet which you think is shod for the Gospel! Why won't you try making your own plot and planting what you want in there and try not to intervene in my work or the work of others for the Gospel! to their master they fall or are uplifted Frankly You are annoying and I think you want to play dumb! I said you should talk with angel probably you will understand each other better, I can't reach your level...you want to see how angel and you would talk with each other? Cute but ....here visit this site: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JmA2ClUvUY Roland G. You ARE GLOSSING OVER WHAT IS PLAIN IN THE VERY VERSE WE ARE COMMENTING DEUTERONOMY 21:15TO FAVOR YOUR SHOULD BE MONOGAMY FOR ALL men!

You know Roland I am like the policeman and you are like the Bushman in the movie The Gods must be Crazy! It is hard to explain to you, for no matter how I try you cannot understand…just ignoring my words like those words are nonsense but I wonder why you act like the Rhino in that movie….every time I start a fiery plant…there you come try stamping it out with your foolish feet which you think is shod for the Gospel!

Why won’t you try making your own plot and planting what you want in there and try not to intervene in my work or the work of others for the Gospel! to their master they fall or are uplifted

Frankly You are annoying and I think you want to play dumb! I said you should talk with angel probably you will understand each other better, I can’t reach your level…you want to see how angel and you would talk with each other?
Cute but ….here visit this site:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JmA2ClUvUY

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Comment on Deuteronomy 21: 15 by Roland G http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/deuteronomy21-15#comment-13746 Roland G Sat, 04 Feb 2012 04:59:16 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/deuteronomy21-15#comment-13746 Tiuche (Post #7): God made Adam and Eve. God did not make Adam, Eve, and Betty. Polygamists fantasize about what God should have done. Tiuche (Post #7): God made Adam and Eve. God did not make Adam, Eve, and Betty. Polygamists fantasize about what God should have done.

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Comment on Matthew 5: 31 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew5-31#comment-13745 TIUCHE Sat, 04 Feb 2012 02:45:22 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/matthew5-31#comment-13745 THOUGHTS ON DIVORCE AND MARRIAGE Source of article: http://www.christianmarriage.com/home/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=125 Theology Questions: Marriages that are Broken Posted by: Pastor_Don_Milton on Jul 18, 2007 - 08:36 PM Print this story E-mail this to a friend Broken Marriages - Part One Broken is not a biblical term concerning marriage. The couple is either married or they are not married. After a man has taken a woman as a wife there are only two things that can make her not his wife. His death or a Bill of Divorcement given by him to his wife. No court, no man, no church can make a married woman single again. Only the death of her husband or a Bill of Divorcement from her husband can make her single again. Furthermore, no court, no man and no church can declare a woman still to be married if a man has given her a bill of divorcement. That Bill of Divorcement signed by the husband makes her single. Many Christians have great difficulty understanding marriage outside the context of their government laws and that is sad. The fact is, marriage has nothing whatsoever to do with the government. The government can cause great difficulties for Christians concerning their marriages and of course a wise man will consider this in whatever actions he takes. Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. The following are all the verses concerning a Bill of Divorcement. [translated writing of divorcement in the New Testament] ----------------------------- Deuteronomy 24:1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give [it] in her hand, and send her out of his house. Deuteronomy 24:3 And [if] the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth [it] in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her [to be] his wife; Isaiah 50:1 Thus saith the LORD, Where [is] the bill of your mother's divorcement, whom I have put away? or which of my creditors [is it] to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away. Jeremiah 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also. Mark 10:4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put [her] away. Matthew 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement: Matthew 19:7 They say unto Him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? Mark 10:4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put [her] away. ----------------------------- Notice that it is the man who gives the Bill of Divorcement. There is no case where a woman gives a Bill of Divorcement. This is based on the fact that woman was created for man as a helper, an astounding and one of a kind helper but a helper nonetheless. Adam poetically describes her as "bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh." Genesis 2:18 And the LORD God said, [It is] not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. Genesis 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man. By definition, a helper is one whose services belong to the one they're helping. If the helper stops helping and starts sabatoging her husband then her husband can divorce her and the Lord describes the type of sabotage for which a man can divorce his wife; "some uncleanness." Deuteronomy 24:1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give [it] in her hand, and send her out of his house. So what is some uncleanness? Jesus discusses Deuteronomy 24:1 in Matthew 5:31&32 when he says that a man may divorce his wife "for the cause of fornication." Since Jesus was a Hebrew and spoke to Hebrews it is of little value to look at the Greek translation of his words when we can find the Hebrew words in Deuteronomy 24:1 where the word translated as "uncleanness" [fornication] is "`ervah." Here is the meaning of `ervah according to Strong's Hebrew concordance: 1) nakedness, nudity, shame, pudenda a) pudenda (implying shameful exposure) b) nakedness of a thing, indecency, improper behavior c) exposed, undefended (fig.) Based on this, what activities would be unclean for a woman? - public nudity - behaving like one who exposes herself publicly (dressing like a harlot) - going with a man "undefended" meaning without a chaperone. No wife should ever go behind closed doors with any man except for those who are responsible for keeping her safe, namely, her own close relatives as defined by the incest laws of Leviticus. Close male relatives include her husband, her grandfather, her father, her son, her grandson, her nephew, her father-in-law, her son-in-law, and her brother-in-law. Of course if a husband has reason to believe that any of these cannot be trusted then he can prohibit his wife from being alone with them as well. There certainly are cases where even a close relative cannot be trusted such as when the relative is a drug user, a heavy drinker, mentally ill, or where the relative has shown moral weakness in the past. As with all discussion concerning morality, and particularly morality of the kind that can result in divorce, we must remember the following verse: Romans 5:13 For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. Have you and your church sufficiently taught the law so that those who are marrying within your church know the consequences of their actions? Can you impute sin when they sin or have you hidden sin from them? It is extremely important that every Christian, every minister, and every church teach morality in accordance with the Bible or the sins of those they counsel will be on their hands. It is too late to metaphorically tear our robes. We must start teaching from the Bible and only from the Bible today. THOUGHTS ON DIVORCE AND MARRIAGE

Source of article: http://www.christianmarriage.com/home/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=125

Theology Questions: Marriages that are Broken
Posted by: Pastor_Don_Milton on Jul 18, 2007 - 08:36 PM
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Broken Marriages - Part One
Broken is not a biblical term concerning marriage. The couple is either married or they are not married. After a man has taken a woman as a wife there are only two things that can make her not his wife. His death or a Bill of Divorcement given by him to his wife. No court, no man, no church can make a married woman single again. Only the death of her husband or a Bill of Divorcement from her husband can make her single again. Furthermore, no court, no man and no church can declare a woman still to be married if a man has given her a bill of divorcement. That Bill of Divorcement signed by the husband makes her single. Many Christians have great difficulty understanding marriage outside the context of their government laws and that is sad. The fact is, marriage has nothing whatsoever to do with the government. The government can cause great difficulties for Christians concerning their marriages and of course a wise man will consider this in whatever actions he takes. Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

The following are all the verses concerning a Bill of Divorcement. [translated writing of divorcement in the New Testament]

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Deuteronomy 24:1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give [it] in her hand, and send her out of his house.

Deuteronomy 24:3 And [if] the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth [it] in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her [to be] his wife;

Isaiah 50:1 Thus saith the LORD, Where [is] the bill of your mother’s divorcement, whom I have put away? or which of my creditors [is it] to whom I have sold you? Behold, for your iniquities have ye sold yourselves, and for your transgressions is your mother put away.

Jeremiah 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

Mark 10:4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put [her] away.

Matthew 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:

Matthew 19:7 They say unto Him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?

Mark 10:4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put [her] away.
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Notice that it is the man who gives the Bill of Divorcement. There is no case where a woman gives a Bill of Divorcement. This is based on the fact that woman was created for man as a helper, an astounding and one of a kind helper but a helper nonetheless. Adam poetically describes her as “bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh.”

Genesis 2:18 And the LORD God said, [It is] not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
Genesis 2:22 And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

By definition, a helper is one whose services belong to the one they’re helping. If the helper stops helping and starts sabatoging her husband then her husband can divorce her and the Lord describes the type of sabotage for which a man can divorce his wife; “some uncleanness.”

Deuteronomy 24:1 When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give [it] in her hand, and send her out of his house.

So what is some uncleanness? Jesus discusses Deuteronomy 24:1 in Matthew 5:31&32 when he says that a man may divorce his wife “for the cause of fornication.” Since Jesus was a Hebrew and spoke to Hebrews it is of little value to look at the Greek translation of his words when we can find the Hebrew words in Deuteronomy 24:1 where the word translated as “uncleanness” [fornication] is “`ervah.”

Here is the meaning of `ervah according to Strong’s Hebrew concordance:

1) nakedness, nudity, shame, pudenda

a) pudenda (implying shameful exposure)

b) nakedness of a thing, indecency, improper behavior

c) exposed, undefended (fig.)

Based on this, what activities would be unclean for a woman?

- public nudity
- behaving like one who exposes herself publicly (dressing like a harlot)
- going with a man “undefended” meaning without a chaperone.

No wife should ever go behind closed doors with any man except for those who are responsible for keeping her safe, namely, her own close relatives as defined by the incest laws of Leviticus. Close male relatives include her husband, her grandfather, her father, her son, her grandson, her nephew, her father-in-law, her son-in-law, and her brother-in-law. Of course if a husband has reason to believe that any of these cannot be trusted then he can prohibit his wife from being alone with them as well. There certainly are cases where even a close relative cannot be trusted such as when the relative is a drug user, a heavy drinker, mentally ill, or where the relative has shown moral weakness in the past.

As with all discussion concerning morality, and particularly morality of the kind that can result in divorce, we must remember the following verse:

Romans 5:13 For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

Have you and your church sufficiently taught the law so that those who are marrying within your church know the consequences of their actions? Can you impute sin when they sin or have you hidden sin from them? It is extremely important that every Christian, every minister, and every church teach morality in accordance with the Bible or the sins of those they counsel will be on their hands. It is too late to metaphorically tear our robes. We must start teaching from the Bible and only from the Bible today.

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Comment on James 2: 12 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/james2-12#comment-13744 TIUCHE Sat, 04 Feb 2012 02:10:06 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/james2-12#comment-13744 TO THINK THAT THEY TAUGHT THAT THE LAW OF GOD HAVE BEEN DONE AWAY in the New Covenant...yet the scriptures are clear: So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. To think that they refuse to acknowledge that the Laws of God allows polygyny, prohibits abominable foods and tells us to remember God's Sabbaths... To establish the Laws of God, to put the Laws in our minds and write it in our hearts, would we still refuse to hear the Laws of God? so simple yet the people would want all grace and throw away the Law-when the Law of God should be coupled with His grace with the weight favoring grace more-that is the Truth! Jeremiah 31:33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. Hebrews 8:10 This is the covenant I will make with the house of ... AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE. ... After those days," says the Lord; "I will put my laws into their mind, I will also write them ... put my laws in their hearts," or, "I will make this covenant with them after those days. TO THINK THAT THEY TAUGHT THAT THE LAW OF GOD HAVE BEEN DONE AWAY in the New Covenant…yet the scriptures are clear: So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. To think that they refuse to acknowledge that the Laws of God allows polygyny, prohibits abominable foods and tells us to remember God’s Sabbaths…

To establish the Laws of God, to put the Laws in our minds and write it in our hearts, would we still refuse to hear the Laws of God? so simple yet the people would want all grace and throw away the Law-when the Law of God should be coupled with His grace with the weight favoring grace more-that is the Truth!

Jeremiah 31:33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts.

Hebrews 8:10 This is the covenant I will make with the house of …
AND I WILL BE THEIR GOD, AND THEY SHALL BE MY PEOPLE. … After those days,” says the Lord; “I will put my laws into their mind, I will also write them … put my laws in their hearts,” or, “I will make this covenant with them after those days.

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Comment on James 2: 2 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/james2-2#comment-13743 TIUCHE Sat, 04 Feb 2012 01:50:02 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/james2-2#comment-13743 PASTOR FOR MONEY (This one's for you Sir!) I told him back then , sir the BALL is in your hand!And now again I told him once again, the BALL is in your hand!But he still ignored and glossed over it!Back then THE PASTOR SAID," NO HOLDS BARRED: what is sin will be declared as sin and what is TRUTH will be declared as Truth."Show me the truth and I will preach the Truth no matter what the consequences! But boy, after more than twenty years he still refused to be convinced and tell the TRUTH! He is busy with the ministry he said. Is he aware of his failings? I REMEMBERED IT WELL...how the pastor called for volunteers to repair the house of one rich member...but how he failed to do the same for a poor member sick in the hospital...and just recently, yes just recently he did one more bias choosing: The Church split because of many problems...and then they also split the local church in my place and I suspect it was who among them that leads will get the LION SHARE of the funding from the brethren from the United States. And the Pastor choose the rich members to his side...he called them up...visited them like they were good "Christians" while the poor, oh I think he did not have use for the poor brethren...why bother for the poor...they will just consume and be in need of help and not contribute to the MONEY money money! They say like Gaga: ...And P. You Ready. [Verse 1:] Seems like everybody's got a price, I wonder how they sleep at night.. When the sale comes first, And the truth comes second, Just stop, for a minute and Smile! Why is everybody so serious?! Acting so damn mysterious, You got your shades on your eyes. And your heels so high That you can't even have a good time... ...It's not about the money, money, money, We don't need your money, money, money. We just wanna make the world dance, Forget about the price tag... Ah these people...living in artificial environment... in church to socialize and compare plumage...and study the Bible superficially...having the form but no the substance...yes they did many good things and positive things in the Church...the problem is with those who lead...it is okay to be imperfect as leaders...but when leaders leads for money what is that? Yes leaders too need money, muzzle not the oxen...but the love of it more than being lovers of God, what is that? 1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And some people, craving money, have wandered from the true faith... 2 Timothy 3:2 For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money... James : 2 verses: 1My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. 2 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; 3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: 4 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? 5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? 6 But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? 7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called? 8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all PASTOR FOR MONEY (This one’s for you Sir!)

I told him back then , sir the BALL is in your hand!And now again I told him once again, the BALL is in your hand!But he still ignored and glossed over it!Back then THE PASTOR SAID,” NO HOLDS BARRED: what is sin will be declared as sin and what is TRUTH will be declared as Truth.”Show me the truth and I will preach the Truth no matter what the consequences! But boy, after more than twenty years he still refused to be convinced and tell the TRUTH! He is busy with the ministry he said. Is he aware of his failings?

I REMEMBERED IT WELL…how the pastor called for volunteers to repair the house of one rich member…but how he failed to do the same for a poor member sick in the hospital…and just recently, yes just recently he did one more bias choosing:

The Church split because of many problems…and then they also split the local church in my place and I suspect it was who among them that leads will get the LION SHARE of the funding from the brethren from the United States. And the Pastor choose the rich members to his side…he called them up…visited them like they were good “Christians” while the poor, oh I think he did not have use for the poor brethren…why bother for the poor…they will just consume and be in need of help and not contribute to the MONEY money money!

They say like Gaga:
…And P.
You Ready.
[Verse 1:]
Seems like everybody’s got a price,
I wonder how they sleep at night..
When the sale comes first,
And the truth comes second,
Just stop, for a minute and
Smile!
Why is everybody so serious?!
Acting so damn mysterious,
You got your shades on your eyes.
And your heels so high
That you can’t even have a good time…
…It’s not about the money, money, money,
We don’t need your money, money, money.
We just wanna make the world dance,
Forget about the price tag…

Ah these people…living in artificial environment… in church to socialize and compare plumage…and study the Bible superficially…having the form but no the substance…yes they did many good things and positive things in the Church…the problem is with those who lead…it is okay to be imperfect as leaders…but when leaders leads for money what is that? Yes leaders too need money, muzzle not the oxen…but the love of it more than being lovers of God, what is that?

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is the root of all kinds of evil. And some people, craving money, have wandered from the true faith…

2 Timothy 3:2 For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money…

James : 2 verses:

1My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.

2 For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment;

3 And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:

4 Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?

5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?

6 But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?

7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?

8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:

9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.

10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all

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Comment on Romans 1: 26 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/romans1-26#comment-13742 TIUCHE Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:37:20 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/romans1-26#comment-13742 THIS IS ONE RESULT OF TRANSGRESSING THE LAWS OF GOD ON MARRIAGE, CHANGING THE ORDINANCE ON MARRIAGE AND BREAKING THE EVERLASTING COVENANT-this is described in Romans 1:26-27 "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust toward one another; males with males working out shamefulness, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was fitting for their error." God in the Holy Scriptures allows men to practice MONOGAMY, POLYGYNY &/OR SINGLENESS; God gave them free will and free choice which kind of life to live or practice. When men compel everyone to PRACTICE & live SHOULD BE MONOGAMY FOR ALL MEN, then that is TRANSGRESSING THE LAWS OF GOD -that is changing the ORDINANCE OF GOD! The result would be misery, loneliness and destruction of people led into such a false teaching and ways! Wake up sleepers! THIS IS ONE RESULT OF TRANSGRESSING THE LAWS OF GOD ON MARRIAGE, CHANGING THE ORDINANCE ON MARRIAGE AND BREAKING THE EVERLASTING COVENANT-this is described in Romans 1:26-27 “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust toward one another; males with males working out shamefulness, and receiving in themselves the recompense which was fitting for their error.”

God in the Holy Scriptures allows men to practice MONOGAMY, POLYGYNY &/OR SINGLENESS; God gave them free will and free choice which kind of life to live or practice. When men compel everyone to PRACTICE & live SHOULD BE MONOGAMY FOR ALL MEN, then that is TRANSGRESSING THE LAWS OF GOD -that is changing the ORDINANCE OF GOD! The result would be misery, loneliness and destruction of people led into such a false teaching and ways! Wake up sleepers!

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Comment on Hosea 3: 1 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/hosea3-1#comment-13741 TIUCHE Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:21:22 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/hosea3-1#comment-13741 DID HOSEA THE PROPHET HAVE TWO WIVES? Funny how people would react angrily with that INSINUATION!When Moses himself did have two wives and Abraham, David & others have many wives. Why be angry? Consider this story below : http://www.christianpoly.org/hosea.php Many years ago we were visiting a church and the Sunday school began a series on the book of Hosea. We were able to add some comments as to the idea that the ten northern tribes did not disappear forever as is commonly taught by showing the promises in the last few verses of chapter one. The promises show that they would one day be called "Sons of the living God" or Christians and move to new lands mostly toward the north west as shown by the archeological record. We really did not intend to get into a discussion of plural marriage at any church. During the week before the class progressed to chapter three I needed to check the scripture a little closer. The teacher in the class had made a parting comment about Gomer, Hosea's wife of whoredom, who ran away and had to be bought back. It was one of those studies I had not gotten around to yet. Where did the scripture say Gomer ran away? Hosea 3:1 Then said Yahweh to me, Go yet, love a woman beloved of her friend, yet an adulteress, according to the love of Yahweh toward the children of Israel, who look to other gods, and love flagons of wine. I began by asking where the idea that Gomer ran away was found. They based it all on chapter three, verse one. That really does not make sense especially when you consider the phrase, "beloved of her friend". At some point they asked us for our explanation so we said that it sounded more like God had told Hosea to go and marry a friend of Gomer's. Well as you might imagine that evoked anger and even fear. A few times I have been amazed at the response from people. The response was immediate and you could feel the tension. The man who reacted with anger began a tirade while the teacher began trying to reassure everyone that Gomer had really just run away. I don't really remember my response other than maybe, "Wow, new ideas can be dangerous." The truth of the matter is that we do not really know that Hosea was even single when God told him to take Gomer? Regardless there is a good reason why I believe that God told Hosea to marry two women. The entire book is prophecy and the intention is to show how God was about to punish his two wives. Hosea is primarily about the ten northern tribes, the house of Israel for their punishment was to be more severe. Originally Israel, after they left Egypt, was a united group of twelve, really thirteen tribes as Joseph was split into two tribes. After Solomon died the nation split into two with the ten northern tribes breaking away and becoming known as the house of Israel. The southern two tribes became known as the house of Judah. Together scripture still referred to them as Israel, but they were two separate nations and God then considered them both his wives. Ezekiel 23:2, 4 2 Son of man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother: 4 And the names of them were Aholah the elder, and Aholibah her sister: and they were mine, and they bore sons and daughters. Thus were their names; Samaria is Aholah, and Jerusalem Aholibah. You should really read the entire chapter, but verse two shows that God considered that as the nation split into two the two nations were considered as two women. Verse four shows that the two women bore children for God as his wives. God then identified them, Samaria was the capital city of the northern ten tribes while the house of Judah remained at Jerusalem. By the way, it was shortly after this split that we find the first instance of the word Jew in scripture. It is a poor translation for Judah who was at that time fighting with the house of Israel. Thus one can say that the first time the word Jew is found in scripture they, actually Judah, were fighting against Israel. It is one way I use to show that the word Jew does not ever include all twelve tribes of Israel. In the new testament it can include anyone living at Judea, descendant of Jacob/Israel or not which makes it hard sometimes to understand who is being discussed. All of the above is to show that the idea of Hosea taking two wives fits in with what was actually happening and about to happen. The primary prophecy was that the house of Israel was about to be divorced by God and sent into the Assyrian captivity. This captivity actually included almost all of the house of Judah as well, both wives were to a degree involved. Only Jerusalem and a few surrounding towns were left behind. Jerusalem had a real attitude problem after this as they felt self justified since they were left behind. Remember though that those taken were not with out hope. They were never to be allowed to return to their old land, but they were given hope that one day they would be remarried to God as the last few verses of chapter one of Hosea promises. So God had Hosea marry two women, but it was not the act of marrying two women that makes the prophecy. They were just the props for the prophecy. DID HOSEA THE PROPHET HAVE TWO WIVES? Funny how people would react angrily with that INSINUATION!When Moses himself did have two wives and Abraham, David & others have many wives. Why be angry? Consider this story below :
http://www.christianpoly.org/hosea.php

Many years ago we were visiting a church and the Sunday school began a series on the book of Hosea. We were able to add some comments as to the idea that the ten northern tribes did not disappear forever as is commonly taught by showing the promises in the last few verses of chapter one. The promises show that they would one day be called “Sons of the living God” or Christians and move to new lands mostly toward the north west as shown by the archeological record.

We really did not intend to get into a discussion of plural marriage at any church. During the week before the class progressed to chapter three I needed to check the scripture a little closer. The teacher in the class had made a parting comment about Gomer, Hosea’s wife of whoredom, who ran away and had to be bought back. It was one of those studies I had not gotten around to yet. Where did the scripture say Gomer ran away?

Hosea 3:1
Then said Yahweh to me, Go yet, love a woman beloved of her friend, yet an adulteress, according to the love of Yahweh toward the children of Israel, who look to other gods, and love flagons of wine.

I began by asking where the idea that Gomer ran away was found. They based it all on chapter three, verse one. That really does not make sense especially when you consider the phrase, “beloved of her friend”. At some point they asked us for our explanation so we said that it sounded more like God had told Hosea to go and marry a friend of Gomer’s. Well as you might imagine that evoked anger and even fear. A few times I have been amazed at the response from people. The response was immediate and you could feel the tension. The man who reacted with anger began a tirade while the teacher began trying to reassure everyone that Gomer had really just run away. I don’t really remember my response other than maybe, “Wow, new ideas can be dangerous.”

The truth of the matter is that we do not really know that Hosea was even single when God told him to take Gomer? Regardless there is a good reason why I believe that God told Hosea to marry two women. The entire book is prophecy and the intention is to show how God was about to punish his two wives. Hosea is primarily about the ten northern tribes, the house of Israel for their punishment was to be more severe.

Originally Israel, after they left Egypt, was a united group of twelve, really thirteen tribes as Joseph was split into two tribes. After Solomon died the nation split into two with the ten northern tribes breaking away and becoming known as the house of Israel. The southern two tribes became known as the house of Judah. Together scripture still referred to them as Israel, but they were two separate nations and God then considered them both his wives.

Ezekiel 23:2, 4
2 Son of man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother:

4 And the names of them were Aholah the elder, and Aholibah her sister: and they were mine, and they bore sons and daughters. Thus were their names; Samaria is Aholah, and Jerusalem Aholibah.

You should really read the entire chapter, but verse two shows that God considered that as the nation split into two the two nations were considered as two women. Verse four shows that the two women bore children for God as his wives. God then identified them, Samaria was the capital city of the northern ten tribes while the house of Judah remained at Jerusalem. By the way, it was shortly after this split that we find the first instance of the word Jew in scripture. It is a poor translation for Judah who was at that time fighting with the house of Israel. Thus one can say that the first time the word Jew is found in scripture they, actually Judah, were fighting against Israel. It is one way I use to show that the word Jew does not ever include all twelve tribes of Israel. In the new testament it can include anyone living at Judea, descendant of Jacob/Israel or not which makes it hard sometimes to understand who is being discussed.

All of the above is to show that the idea of Hosea taking two wives fits in with what was actually happening and about to happen. The primary prophecy was that the house of Israel was about to be divorced by God and sent into the Assyrian captivity. This captivity actually included almost all of the house of Judah as well, both wives were to a degree involved. Only Jerusalem and a few surrounding towns were left behind. Jerusalem had a real attitude problem after this as they felt self justified since they were left behind. Remember though that those taken were not with out hope. They were never to be allowed to return to their old land, but they were given hope that one day they would be remarried to God as the last few verses of chapter one of Hosea promises.

So God had Hosea marry two women, but it was not the act of marrying two women that makes the prophecy. They were just the props for the prophecy.

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Comment on Deuteronomy 21: 15 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/deuteronomy21-15#comment-13740 TIUCHE Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:06:54 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/deuteronomy21-15#comment-13740 Roland G. YOUR HYPOCRISY IS SHOWING! Or is it your babe mind? Or light you be a false brother? The fact that you keep on saying that God ordained pattern for marriage is; ONE MAN & ONE WOMAN- while glossing over Deuteronomy 21:15 is a sign of BIAS INTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURES! You are not after the TRUTH in this matter but to follow your wayward MOTHER and her loverS the BEAST & HIS IMAGES! Just take care that the seal in your forehead is indeed THE SPIRIT OF GOD...it might be the seal of your HOLY MOTHER & HER LOVERS! Leave me alone little brother-coz it just boils down between two things: EITHER I AM A FALSE PROPHET or I AM OF GOD! If I am a false prophet...there is no cause for worry since the majority of people would still believe what is popular in the world and not my preaching that POLYGAMY IS NOT A SIN! But if I am of God, THEN YOU WILL BE FOUND OPPOSING THE TRUTH OF GOD! Think! If you still continue your stalking of every post I make, your true character and nature will be revealed in the end ...still hoping you are of God! Roland G. YOUR HYPOCRISY IS SHOWING! Or is it your babe mind? Or light you be a false brother?

The fact that you keep on saying that God ordained pattern for marriage is; ONE MAN & ONE WOMAN- while glossing over Deuteronomy 21:15 is a sign of BIAS INTERPRETATION OF SCRIPTURES!

You are not after the TRUTH in this matter but to follow your wayward MOTHER and her loverS the BEAST & HIS IMAGES! Just take care that the seal in your forehead is indeed THE SPIRIT OF GOD…it might be the seal of your HOLY MOTHER & HER LOVERS!

Leave me alone little brother-coz it just boils down between two things: EITHER I AM A FALSE PROPHET or I AM OF GOD!

If I am a false prophet…there is no cause for worry since the majority of people would still believe what is popular in the world and not my preaching that POLYGAMY IS NOT A SIN!

But if I am of God, THEN YOU WILL BE FOUND OPPOSING THE TRUTH OF GOD!

Think! If you still continue your stalking of every post I make, your true character and nature will be revealed in the end …still hoping you are of God!

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Comment on James 1: 8 by TIUCHE http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/james1-8#comment-13739 TIUCHE Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:52:44 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/james1-8#comment-13739 THE ONE WHO IS UNSTABLE mentally IS...a....SPIRITUAL BABE & A STALKER Spiritual Baby (Forerunner Commentary) :: Bible Tools www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/.../Spiritual-Baby.htmTheir conduct and attitude were consistent with spiritual babes. ... Paul suggests that a new convert is a child, unstable in his ways, who really does not know ... Stalker Warning Signs - Safety Tips for Women www.crime-safety-security.com/Stalker-Warning-Signs.htmlMost people think safety is a game of chance, but spotting the Stalker Warning ... living happily ever after, is not a healthy message for a stalker's unstable mind. THE ONE WHO IS UNSTABLE mentally IS…a….SPIRITUAL BABE & A STALKER

Spiritual Baby (Forerunner Commentary) :: Bible Tools
www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/…/Spiritual-Baby.htmTheir conduct and attitude were consistent with spiritual babes. … Paul suggests that a new convert is a child, unstable in his ways, who really does not know …

Stalker Warning Signs - Safety Tips for Women
www.crime-safety-security.com/Stalker-Warning-Signs.htmlMost people think safety is a game of chance, but spotting the Stalker Warning … living happily ever after, is not a healthy message for a stalker’s unstable mind.

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Comment on James 1: 8 by Roland G http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/james1-8#comment-13738 Roland G Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:58:48 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/james1-8#comment-13738 A double-minded man is one with a divided and disturbed mind. Disturbed in all his ways he lets emotions take over and rule his mind. The Holy Bible never speaks of government as double minded. A double-minded man is one with a divided and disturbed mind. Disturbed in all his ways he lets emotions take over and rule his mind.

The Holy Bible never speaks of government as double minded.

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Comment on Acts 2: 4 by TSnow http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/acts2-4#comment-13737 TSnow Fri, 03 Feb 2012 16:18:36 +0000 http://www.vbvbc.org/bible-verse/acts2-4#comment-13737 Post #2: Lets see... perhaps I should go over this again as I may have missed a point or two. In John 7 beginning with v.37, on the last and greatest day of the feast, Jesus says, "If anyone is thirsty let him come to Me and drink. Whoever believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him" [vv.37-38]. Then we read, "By this He meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given since Jesus had not yet been glorified" [v.39]. So the Holy Spirit would not be given [dwell on earth] until AFTER Jesus had returned to the Father. Now in John 16, Jesus is talking about the ministry of the Holy Spirit [vv.5-14]. In v.7 He says, "Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you" [recall Jn.7:39]. Turn if you will to Luke 24. Jesus says "...repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem" [v.47]. Then He says, "You are witnesses of these things. I am going to send you what My Father promised [Holy Spirit], but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high" [vv.48-49]. It is clear, Jesus is referring to one and the same event - the coming/giving of the Holy Spirit. Now turn if you will to Acts 1. In v.4 Jesus says to His disciples, "Do not leave Jerusalem, but WAIT for the gift My Father promised, which you have heard Me speak about" [cf. Jn.16; Lk.24, for example]. Then the disciples ask Jesus about restoring the kingdom to Israel, and He says, It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by His own authority. But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you, and you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem nd in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth" [vv.7-8]. Recall the preaching of the Gospel was to begin AT JERUSALEM [Lk.24:47]. Then, here in Ac.1, Jesus is taken home [vv.10-11]. Jesus had given His disciples an impossible task - to evamgelize the world. They, nor any one else, could possibly carry out such a task in their own strength. A few days later, here comes the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. Clearly the disciples in that upper room, received a display of God's power when the Holy Spirit came. They spoke the Gospel in the LANGUAGES of those present - Parthians, Medes, Elamites and all the rest [vv.5-11]. Point being, the Spirit was given at Pentecost in fulfillment of all Jesus talked about. The disciples were to WAIT because Jesus had to ascend in order for the Spirit to be given. Further, the Spirit came at Pentecost - to incorporate believers into one body - the Body of Christ on earth - the Church. THAT was the "Baptism of the Holy Spirit." It is not repeated - there is no more "waiting" for the Holy Spirit. When we receive Jesus as Savior, He indwells us through the presence of His Holy Spirit. At that moment, we have all the power we need to carry out whatever God calls us to do. The question each of us needs to answer is not "how much of the Spirit do I have?" but "how much of ME does HE have?" Because all the power we are going to receive, we received when we were saved. It is manifested in our lives as we become obedient. Those other passages - why those other people hadn't received the Spirit? I believe you asked because we mentioned the Spirit came to incorporated believers into the Body of Christ? Would this be correct? Best that I could answer, is that the Spirit indwelt those in that upper room in Jerusalem, and then indwelt other believers as time went on [Ac.8:16]. Some had not even heard of the Holy Spirit. Actually, think I understand what you're asking. That's a toughie. However, we are indwelt by/with the life of Jesus through His Spirit. Recall in Col.2, where we read of Christ's Deity, we also read, "...and you have been given fullness in Christ who is the head over every power and authority." If Jesus is the fullness of God, and you and I have been given 'fullness' in Christ, would it not follow that we are indwelt with ALL of Him - with ALL of God at the moment of salvation? Sorry, gotta go. Will be back next week. God bless. T. Post #2: Lets see… perhaps I should go over this again as I may have missed a point or two.
In John 7 beginning with v.37, on the last and greatest day of the feast, Jesus says, “If anyone is thirsty let him come to Me and drink. Whoever believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him” [vv.37-38]. Then we read, “By this He meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given since Jesus had not yet been glorified” [v.39]. So the Holy Spirit would not be given [dwell on earth] until AFTER Jesus had returned to the Father.
Now in John 16, Jesus is talking about the ministry of the Holy Spirit [vv.5-14]. In v.7 He says, “Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you” [recall Jn.7:39].
Turn if you will to Luke 24. Jesus says “…repentance and forgiveness of sins will be preached in His name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem” [v.47]. Then He says, “You are witnesses of these things. I am going to send you what My Father promised [Holy Spirit], but stay in the city until you have been clothed with power from on high” [vv.48-49].
It is clear, Jesus is referring to one and the same event - the coming/giving of the Holy Spirit.
Now turn if you will to Acts 1. In v.4 Jesus says to His disciples, “Do not leave Jerusalem, but WAIT for the gift My Father promised, which you have heard Me speak about” [cf. Jn.16; Lk.24, for example].
Then the disciples ask Jesus about restoring the kingdom to Israel, and He says, It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by His own authority. But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you, and you will be My witnesses in Jerusalem nd in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth” [vv.7-8]. Recall the preaching of the Gospel was to begin AT JERUSALEM [Lk.24:47].
Then, here in Ac.1, Jesus is taken home [vv.10-11]. Jesus had given His disciples an impossible task - to evamgelize the world. They, nor any one else, could possibly carry out such a task in their own strength.
A few days later, here comes the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. Clearly the disciples in that upper room, received a display of God’s power when the Holy Spirit came. They spoke the Gospel in the LANGUAGES of those present - Parthians, Medes, Elamites and all the rest [vv.5-11].
Point being, the Spirit was given at Pentecost in fulfillment of all Jesus talked about. The disciples were to WAIT because Jesus had to ascend in order for the Spirit to be given.
Further, the Spirit came at Pentecost - to incorporate believers into one body - the Body of Christ on earth - the Church. THAT was the “Baptism of the Holy Spirit.” It is not repeated - there is no more “waiting” for the Holy Spirit.
When we receive Jesus as Savior, He indwells us through the presence of His Holy Spirit. At that moment, we have all the power we need to carry out whatever God calls us to do. The question each of us needs to answer is not “how much of the Spirit do I have?” but “how much of ME does HE have?” Because all the power we are going to receive, we received when we were saved. It is manifested in our lives as we become obedient.
Those other passages - why those other people hadn’t received the Spirit? I believe you asked because we mentioned the Spirit came to incorporated believers into the Body of Christ? Would this be correct?
Best that I could answer, is that the Spirit indwelt those in that upper room in Jerusalem, and then indwelt other believers as time went on [Ac.8:16]. Some had not even heard of the Holy Spirit.
Actually, think I understand what you’re asking. That’s a toughie. However, we are indwelt by/with the life of Jesus through His Spirit. Recall in Col.2, where we read of Christ’s Deity, we also read, “…and you have been given fullness in Christ who is the head over every power and authority.”
If Jesus is the fullness of God, and you and I have been given ‘fullness’ in Christ, would it not follow that we are indwelt with ALL of Him - with ALL of God at the moment of salvation? Sorry, gotta go. Will be back next week. God bless. T.

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